Anyone have the Neo 2T?

I thought clever training just got some back in but they probably sold already

Thanks! I will take a look!

https://www.clevertraining.com/tacx-neo-2t-direct-drive-smart-trainer-black?utm_campaign=575893_10.22.20%20Back%20in%20stock&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Clever%20Training&bxid=244120445&dm_i=5EBN,CCD1,41CCJH,1A83F,1

Still in stock as of now

I got my 2T in the last month, and I had a few questions for other owners and see if what I am experiencing is normal.

I have noticed it has a decent amount of vibration in the pedals when under load (200-250W). Is this just the magnets and how the resistance works? Definitely not a smooth feeling as my old Kickr Snap.

The other issue I have noticed in in Zwift, the changes are extremely rapid so for example cresting a hill the change from a positive gradient to a negative one causes the resistance to just let go and almost feels like it is slipping. I am not sure if this is normal and the switch from my power to it powering itself down the hill is that abrupt? I guess I need to try unplugging it and remove the powered downhill option.

I had the same issues when I demoed one from my LBS: vibrations around that same power level and also the abrupt changes in resistance. I tried it for some vo2 stuff and the resistance hit so drastically it was nearly impossible to maintain cadence. Glad I got to try it first because I hated it

I haven’t had too much of an issue in ERG mode, it does change quickly but that doesn’t bother me too much. I find it more annoying that it hits 2s before the interval actually starts and ends 2s early, catches me off guard sometimes.

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To me the way the intervals came on was what I imagine it’s like being kicked by a horse, and yes they did come on early. I’d rather have it 2 seconds late so you can anticipate it but the overzealous starts and immediate spikes in resistance were a no for me, but what you’re describing sounds like my experience

That’s how it’s sent to the trainer, the 2T is just responsive enough for you to notice it.

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That’s not normal, you should check out https://tacxfaqx.com/ and see if you can find your issue there.

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The so-called “trainer difficulty” setting in Zwift should help with that, see Using the “Trainer Difficulty” Setting in Zwift | Zwift Insider

The TD will impact that to a degree.

Importantly, since it doesn’t seem to be stated…

  • [edit: I see it is mentioned above, but this still serves to point out that it is a factor and will impact the feel. The Neo is likely the fastest response trainer in the world, especially notable in the 2T version. This means that grade changes are likely happing faster than other trainers. So if you are comparing to other ones, this is a key difference, and something to welcome really, since it is likely more close to outside conditions.]

we need to mention something VERY important about the Neo trainers. They all feature “downhill drive” that means it will actually propel the flywheel forward, in an effort to more accurately simulate the change in pedal force from our acceleration down a grade, like we get outside.

That propulsion will make holding power more difficult, again just like outside. It will be a more dramatic difference in feel when you have higher TD setting. So keep that in mind for “simulation” usage on the Neo.

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I think that decent simulation is the more jarring thing, I am going to try it with the unit unplugged, disabling that feature.

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TR seem to have refined that behaviour in the iOS beta app … the power transitions for the 2T now seem a bit smoother, and closer to the expected interval timing.

FWIW, I never have mine plugged in, partly because I move it around occasionally and partly because I never use road feel or the powered descent feature … so there’s no point anyhow. The next time I plug it in will probably be when I need to do a firmware upgrade.

Yes, I’ve seen the stories on tacxfaqx and on the Neo 2T Facebook group. I’ve never had any issues with mine, it would be inconvenient to keep it plugged in, and according to Garmin it’s fine to operate without power, so I’ll take my chances.

I believe a number of the overheating problems were due to a software bug that has since been fixed.

TR seem to have refined that behaviour in the iOS beta app … the power transitions for the 2T now seem a bit smoother, and closer to the expected interval timing.

I will have to try this, I typically use an old Android phone but I have an iPhone for work.

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And TR sure is work! :man_shrugging: :sweat_smile:

The beta app iteration I rode last week had a lag of a couple of seconds to get the power right. I personally prefer the setting changing 2 secs early to start at the correct power.

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you shouldn’t slip a Neo with a 500-700w burst. My neo 2 didn’t start slipping until 1000 and higher