Just to echo @julianoliver. I appreciate you don’t consider it a priority but ERG mode was a game changer for me and massively aids my ability to complete harder workouts effectively. If you can get a loan of a device to try it out I would recommend it.
I used a Kirt Kinetic Road Machine for about 10 months almost all on Zwift which comes to around 380 Hours. I used it with a Pioneer power meter and everything worked exactly as day 1 without one single issue. The noise level was around 67-70 db as Chad posted earlier. With earbuds I never heard the thing. The simplicity was excellent and I found the KK to ride very smooth. the only very small issue was the tension knob did get hard to turn as EveryThirtyMins stated. I sprayed the threads with WD40 and it spins almost to easy now. I started to get the itch for a wheel off smart trainer around the time I started TR a few months ago. I came across a deal on a Kickr Core and simplicity went out the window with this thing.
Things I LIKE and miss about the KK:
- Simple =just jump on and nail the workouts
- Almost Indestructible
- Very Smooth “fluid” ride =fluid does feel a little better than magnets IMO
- Affordable
KK downsides:
- Smaller flywheel just doesn’t have the same inertia (could be an advantage making you work harder?)
- Almost impossible to use front large ring unless doing out of saddle low cadence intervals (at least for me). So I rode in the same couple gears almost 99% of the time.
- It does seem to “Square” the rear tire just a bit, but I used the same tire indoor and outdoor and do not believe it wore any faster. Just not as ideal as wheel off trainers.
Things I LIKE about Kickr Core:
- #1 for me is the added inertia and fact that I can use any gear I want and still hit target watts and cadence. Makes for some good balance in my training since that’s how I ride outside.
- Erg is nice during sweet spot when working. I’ve been doing almost 100% sweet spot and endurance since I got it. I am concerned it won’t work as well during V02, Over Unders etc… we will see.
- Wheel off is very nice, no more turning the tension knob and checking air pressure before every ride.
Things that drive me nuts with the Kickr:
- Trying to match my Pioneer PM with Kickr’s PM and getting a nice consistent quality workout.
- Adding more tech = adding more potential issues. Simplicity out the window…
I’m considering using my Kickr in standard mode once I get into the higher intensities. If I do that really makes you question if it’s worth buying a pricey smart trainer. I thought about adding the larger flywheel to the KK but the reviews on Amazon all said it creates a wobble or vibration.
Kurk Kinetic. Don’t even bother with anything else.
I don’t find the noise high at all. Easy to watch television while riding. Rock and roll is great. I also use InRide and am happy with it. I find the standard setup fine for inertia and optional flywheel not necessary.
Hi Supermurph19
I do NOT have a power meter.
My rationalization is; I pump tire up each time (have gauge), I then calibrate after 10min during my TR workout, (i just stop / save workout … then calibrate … then resume workout … takes maybe 3 min really more like 1 min.) and then the power numbers are consistent each time. No need for $1000.00 meter on an old '67 body …
My ftp is calibrated to this set-up and the numbers TR for my workouts feel very effective … not sure how they know how to figure that out but the workouts seem to push me exactly to my limits … TR is like a puppet master …
Update for everyone!
After much deliberation I got a good deal on a Kickr Core. Shocked at how quiet it is compared to my last trainer. Neighbours didn’t even know I was using it.
@julianoliver ERG mode turns out to have a key benefit that I never heard mentioned before. I’ve got a bit of an imbalance due to weak left hip. To get ERG to stay consistent it’s forcing me to concentrate on engaging both sides equally, which is definitely a huge help. I’m sold!
I’ve had the Kickr Core since October and I have been really pleased. I enjoy indoor workouts so much more compared to my Tacx Vortex.
Good luck with your purchase…some people have had issues but I’ve had zero and hopefully yours is similar.