Black Friday / Cyber Monday 2020

A bit hyperbolic … no?

As I said above, OLED is very nice but it’s a small percentage point improvement over a good LCD set @ 2-4 times the cost.

I’ll be keeping my really nice 2 year old Sony Bravia for the long term.

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I know I know.

This is not accurate. An OLED TV is VASTLY superior to a LCD of 1/4 of the price of the OLED.
Most TV costing $2000 will be “better” than a $500. Granted. Many people will not care or would prefer size over quality, or price is their drive. Everyone has their own thing going on.
For me, image quality and blacks over price.

This is what I am referring as expensive Garbage.
There is no reason to buy a TV like this (I know there are specific cases, but I am talking about most people)

when you could buy an almost perfect tv for the same amount.

I take my TV purchases VERY seriously.
I have always dislike the LCD tv. I recently bought my FIRST ever LCD tv, and it is for the kids play room. It was cheap-ish (less than $200) and I dont care about colors or blacks or contrast or anything. They watch movies on it, they play old xbox and switch games.

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I would agree that nobody should buy a way overpriced Samsung. My Bravia is down to $600. It’s a cut above the cheaper 2nd tier sets. I’ll probably watch it until it dies or maybe when 65" OLED sets are down to $300 I’ll upgrade. :slight_smile:

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Maybe by the end of their production you will be able to get one.
The OLED will suffer the same fate as Plasma TVs.
Good plasmas were never cheap and with the advance of cheap LCD, marked the death of plasmas.
The death of Plasma was the birth of consumer OLEDs. It took a few years but they finally came down in price to more attainable levels.

Now, we are approaching the micro-LED era. We are still probably 5-6 years for the TVs to hit mass market, and by then it will be the start of the end of the OLED. in 10 years we will have micro-LEDs for the price of today OLED TVs.

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Big fan of the 12-hour bibs for all long rides. Did a 28 hour ultra and never had to change them due to hot spots or any other issues. Hygiene be damned…but they held up awesome.

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I just got a pair of the 12 Hour bibs…was pretty psyched to try them after all the positive reviews I had seen.

two 2.75 hour trainer rides later, I’m kinda “meh”…they are a decent set of bibs, but nothing spectacular, IMO. Maybe I need to be outside to find the “magic” but so far IMO they are just a pair of bibs.

Decent enough for what I pad for them (~$150), but if I had dropepd full boat on them I would be extremely disappointed.

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Full price on the 12 hour bib is ridiculous. I like them a little better than (closeout pricing) Assos T.tiburu s7, Voler top-end, PI, and Garneau. Heck I’ve done a handful of 10+ hour days on the Voler without chapping my bare hide (chamois cream free zone).

Not sure you are going to find magic outside, but they tick all checkboxes for me at the $100-160 range. The Alpine thermal bib tights are similar, but like a one piece ski suit its nice having full coverage outside in the 30-40F temps and the mesh pockets are handy. Maybe its just me but all these bibs are about the same, some just fit your body better than others.

Theragun are having a sale on almost all their models. Picked up a mini to give it a try as they have a 30-days test period.

https://www.theragun.com/us/en-us/home?redirect=false

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I’ll be hitting you up when I upgrade in a year two!

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I have had bad experience with their Pro Bibs. The chamois is just so hard after a couple of hours of riding it’s very uncomfortable. Also had to take them to a tailor as the stitching was coming apart and giving me rashes. Bought them in June, so it’s a recent purchase.

Their jerseys are quality, though they run small

Trying to use the coupon code “BOGO” on the S-works Tarmac SL7. Doesn’t seem to be working. :weary:

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I find that indoors, no bibs I’ve tried are “comfortable” after that length of time if you are constantly seated. However outdoors, I have never tried more comfortable bibs.

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I have had the same expirience.
Wonder if it related to the natural body/bike fluctuations that happens on road vs trainer.

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That is my theory and somewhat “proven” by the saddle pressure mapping I did between rigid and different levels of rocker plate movement. Adding even small amounts of motion to the bike and trainer help reduce peak pressure on the support structure and tissue. A bit of motion also leads to a better feel when standing vs rigid, so you may well be willing and able to stand more often, which adds to comfort over time.

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Totally understand that take…don’t encessarily disagree, but I do havea couple of bibs that I can ride pretty long and feel very little discomfort. The bibs that are the most comfortable for me are a pair of Pearl Izumi Pro bibs. For now, they will remain my “go to” bibs for 2+ hour rides on the trainer.

Looking forward to seeing how the12 Hour bibs feel outside. Hopefully doing The Rift in July and bought these with that event in mind.

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Those bibs work great for me also.

Anyone put the trainer on horse stall mats?

Yup, we have seen “hacked” rocker plates that are nothing more than thick and compressible foam. Even some bike trainer mats are thick enough to squish and improve comfort vs sitting on a rigid floor.

It is super simple to make and test. Some people are plenty happy with the results while others see that as an open door to the greater experience of a full rocker plate.

Here are just a couple of hacks from our FB group:

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30% off WKO.

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