Dirty Kanza 2020 Discussion, Training & Racing (DK200)

[Nate_Pearson]

@Brennus

I’m just saying there is never going to be another DK. And there is never going to be another race that is DK but named something else. Whatever Life Time decides to do it’s going to be a different race with a different name. Might be a lot better. Might be a lot worse. It’s gonna be good for some ppl & it’s gonna be bad for others.

You know we can sign up for 2021 already, right?

Same place, different name. Hopefully there is a vaccine that is widely available and effective by next year.

Are you thinking they are going to move it to Iowa or some other Midwest state?

[alvaroe16]

@Brennus

Jim should know that his on line personae is part of the employment responsibility he has to Life Time Fitness. He shouldn’t be posting anything that doesn’t have something to do with bikes, gravel, or racing (unless Life Time tell him to). Period. I haven’t read the post he made but, whatever the content, it doesn’t sound like it was bike related. So like it or not that is grounds for dismissal with cause at the pleasure of Life Time Fitness. That’s what happened.

Did you ask your employer if you could write this post?

I definitely don’t agree with what Jim posted but I don’t agree with what you posted above either. Jim didn’t post in behalf of DK or Life Time Fitness. He posted in his personal profile. While he should have been careful about what he posts, I don’t agree that everything he must post must be about bikes or approve by his employer. Had he mentioned anything about DK in the post, or bikes or something like that…

Again, I personally don’t agree with his post.

[Brennus]

@alvaroe16

Did you ask your employer if you could write this post?

A few points…

1.) No. I do have a horde of employees who work on a commission basis (you might say they just get a share of the loot, really) but I’m not beholden to anyone.
2.) The only thing I need worry about is the sky falling on my head.
3.) Vae Victus.

4.) Thanks for tee-ing this one up.

[Stringwise]

@Brennus

I’m just saying there is never going to be another DK. And there is never going to be another race that is DK but named something else. Whatever Life Time decides to do it’s going to be a different race with a different name. Might be a lot better. Might be a lot worse. It’s gonna be good for some ppl & it’s gonna be bad for others.

I’m just saying pigs can fly and my best friend is a leprechaun

We can “just say” whatever we want but that doesn’t make it true.

You’ve made your post and claims based on your spin through the Midwest. We asked for more specific information and you have nothing to add. Given that participants are able to transfer this year’s entry to next year, I will call your post an attempt to agitate and spread misinformation, at best.

Now, I’m off to go play with my leprechaun.

[vladrath]

Just FYI, I went to the DK camp last year right after Lifetime purchased DK.

1. LifeTime is NOT going to be expanding the amount of people. They are happy with ~2000 total people, they know that the area can’t really handle more people. Will the race get more expensive. I bet. Will people pay it, I bet.

2. The race has brought in about 100 full time jobs to the Emporia area. With it being a fairly small town. I really doubt that the community is going to start hating on the race, regardless of if ONE of the founders was ousted. Jim Cummins may have some self improvement to do. But, I met him, he’s a very nice individual and he was proud of his race. Regardless of whether he works on it or not, I cannot believe that he would try to sabotage the race. I’m also assuming that during his departure he signed something which would have negative ramifications for him.

3. They’ve already entrenched their two routes with the local community. They’re going to go north for 2 years and south for 2 years and switch back and fourth. They spent a lot of time and effort making sure they can use these routes. So I don’t think they’re going to be moving this race from Emporia.

So, will there be a race named Dirty Kanza again? Nope.

Will we be using those same two courses with 1000 people doing the 200 miler… Yes.

My numbered points are based on either official announcements which you can find on the website, news letter, in their Facebook group or in the camp. It is not all my ‘opinion’.

My ‘opinion’ long story short, is that there is too much money coming into that town because of the bike race, official and unofficial bike camps and tourism that it has generated.

[Brennus]

@Stringwise

I will call your post an attempt to agitate and spread misinformation, at best.

so noted.