It is the other way around if you are younger you can probably get away with low intensity stuff and improve but the older you get, the more important it is to do high intensity
Yes but not a lot of it as per the TR plans.
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May dad is almost 50 and he has a 350 watt ftp and he follows tr to a T as wellđ¤ˇââď¸
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Sweet spot base Low and mid
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No build and specialty ?
Let me know when hes 58
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I did plan builder I donât remember what it did for me. I just followed the plan. Rolling Road Race is what I did
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Maybe, I guess⌠Iâve never had a coachâŚBut could we assume that TR is cheaper than a good coach 
and when I say TR Iâm referring to the entire eco system⌠Podcast AACC and the others within the AACC umbrella, as well as this forumâŚcomes a tad bit cheaper, no
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I hate it when people write off someoneâs hard work and good results with some combination of âyouâre young/ genetically giftedâ.
Canât you just be happy for someone and the good results they get without attributing their success to something out of their control?
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^ THIS ^
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Yeah, thatâs exactly what I said.
TR is cheaper but not as good.
Good coach is more expensive but better.
If you canât afford a coach, TR is a great alternative. But it wonât be as tailored to you (even with AT) and will require a fair amount of leg work for most people to fully customize and to root cause any issues or personal adjustments they might come across.
Agree. I love having a coach. I get a plan tailored to my needs but more importantly I have somebody who can objectively tell me I need to rest physically or mentally and schedules times where i have workouts scheduled as âfun workoutsâ meaning do whatever I feel like doing that day or donât feel like doing.
But without a coach, I think TR is a good alternative. You just have to be your own objective voice to determine you need to take a break or rest or just do something fun
DJ is the Dollar Store version of @Jonathan .
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Here is the one issue I have with DJ, he always talks about his successes or failures, and people have mentioned here what a great and notable rider he is, which I do not doubt.
I have watched a number of his videos, and other than talking to himself in the alter ego he rarely speaks to another person so we can hear what they have to say about his methods or plans.
Why not bring in athletes that you have sold plans to, and show what your plans have done for them. Instead of this what I see is DJ talking about his successes or failures, but it seems he only promotes himself as the success of his plans and you never hear from any clients. TR invites top riders to the podcasts often, and this is where the real testimonials of these top riders can speak to what TR has done to help them become better athletes.
I always feel like TR tries to learn from the responses they get from their guests, actually listening to the reply instead of making assumptions. This is one of the other things TR does well at least in the podcasts I think Jonathan asks for users and listeners to tell what is missing or what they want to see improved or different at least 4 times for every episode.
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Do you think DJ makes a significant amount of his money selling plans/coaching? I always assumed he made money from clicks and sponsorships. I know he has plans he sells online, but I never thought that was his main source of income.
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What top riders? Keegan, Alex, Hannah, Sofia? They might use the TR platform to sync workouts from their coaches from TrainingPeaks to TR. The other pod they do, that is good to hear about users using TR and accomplishing their goals which I listen to as they come out.
As for DJ, I think he does pretty well selling plans and coaching.
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No idea how he makes his money. I would just really like to hear from his clients and see what they think especially if they have done both his plans and TR. I donât get anything worked on at my house without 3 estimates, why should my training method be any different. Everytime I see his videos I canât stop and think he was a CTS coach, and I know those workouts are successful I have used them myself. So I would also like to know did he actually develop his own plans or is he just selling CTS.
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He develops his own plans and has not been at CTS in quite awhile.
I think some (most, all?) coaches at CTS develop their own plans and use CTS as a platform to reach customersâŚDylan realized they were taking a huge chunk of the money he generated and decided to put out his own shingle. Smart move.
As for testimonials, Dylan usually backs up his ideas / findings with studies and statistics, which IMO, far outweighs anecdotal evidence.
Neither Dylanâs or TRâs plan are revolutionaryâŚboth offer necessary structure in order to improve as an athlete. Is one âbetterâ than another? There is no way to determine thisâŚtoo many variables, including individual responses to training stimuli.
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Dylan sells his plans in the TrainingPeaks marketplace. He is a certified coach and doesnât recycle plans/workouts from other programs really. TP sellers keep a keen eye on that sort of thing.
My past coach and I are friends and I was going to go back with her as she helped me get and stay a cat 2 on the road at the age of 41, but I was thinking of going with one of Dylanâs gravel or xc plans as that is my focus now and want to try something different.
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I guess the point Iâm trying to make is that I donât think of him as a Coach. I think of him as a media influencer and bike racer. I could be wrong, but it never occurred to me that coaching was where he makes most of his money these days. The TL;DR version is âI donât see him as a competitor to TRâ. I just went to his YouTube page and the first 5 videos I see are:
- Is cycling running your testosterone and what can you do about it - the science
- Is there an optimal cadence - the science
- Make this your best year ever. How to plan your season.
- My 2020 gravel race bike setup
- Most of your training should be easy - Polarized Training with Dr. Stephen Seiler.
I just feel like youâre comparing apple to oranges. Again, maybe Iâm just blind.
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