Garmin Edge 1050 Released

Just wait for it to get weirder in the US as the result of this settlement being over turned - Federal judge rejects $30 billion settlement between Visa, Mastercard and retailers

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And yet there are places that appear to support ā€˜all of the above’. The local gas station FINALLY enabled their NFT stuff (something like 5 years after it was installed) and they claim, so the sticker says, that they they support all of them. I tried Apple Pay twice. First time, worked great. Second time? Face planted. was completely ignoring my iPhone. I guess ā€˜you mileage may vary’ covers more than just your MPG…

I guess I had heard that Google Pay was going/went bye bye, but don’t use Google anything, and didn’t make a note of it.

But the local Kroger went through a dizzying list of ā€˜alternatives’, including a ā€˜scan, bag, go’ scheme that caused shrinkage to explode. I think it lasted a couple months. People were getting completely grossed out because no one was cleaning the handheld scanners I guess. They even had a ā€˜Kroger Pay’ that was supposed to be like Walmart Pay, with QR codes. It crashed to the ground too.

For a retailer, why fight it? Sure they get a part of each transaction, but making shopping difficult for your customers should be, I think, a bad idea. Call me crazy… And are NFT schemes at critical mass yet? Who would think there’s room for another one? Seems ā€˜ill advised’?

Home Depot is an outlier for their non-support of the major NFC payment methods. They have an agreement with PayPal that probably is getting in the way.

I think it’s also POS equipment issue. none of the pin pads I’ve seen even support NFC. They do cost more.

Not sure it’s a cost issue, even the sub 100buck reader I have does NFC.

I can’t imagine the cost to refit a store chain for new card processing systems. Yeah, they are not cheap but for customer convenience, to pass on NFC processors is so tragically short sighted IMO. People LOVE the ā€˜tap and go’ idea. Having to stick a card in the machine, and wait until it’s approved is frustrating for people. (The local gas station that accepts Apple Pay requires a ā€˜chip-card’ remain in the pump for multiple seconds, yet if you ā€˜tap and go’, it’s a simple quick process (IF it works. Last time I tried, it kept saying ā€˜Unable to read card, try again’ yet it has worked at other stations))

Garmin Pay is hardly a feature that would make me upgrade to the 1050. And the 1050 doesn’t support Garmin Pay. I thought this sub-thread was about it being supported as a feature. :man_facepalming: It wouldn’t make much sense IMO. Whatever…** Looking at all the Garmin watches, I did get a pang of regret for selling the fenix I had. It was a great looking watch, but I personally couldn’t see using it for biking.

Regarding HD, I noticed their removal of cashiers, having only one person at the self-check area, and my last trip, there was ONE cashier, and three people ā€˜monitoring’ the self-check machines. I wonder if their management is embarrassed for the missteps they have made, and if they do have newer NFC-less processing systems installed, whoever decided to avoid contactless pods should be publicly flogged. :sunglasses: (And I don’t think Menards supports NFC either, and their POS systems are near antiques! I’ve had multiple times where their receipt printers were broken. Last time I saw a $0.98 sticker on the one next to the monitor (they have TWO printers at each register), and asked if it was really ninety eight cents. The cashier chuckled and said that even at that, it would still be incredibly overpriced. OUCH!)

** There is a bug in Firefox, where if you search for a word in a page, and a hit is displayed at the top of the page, the header frame hides that hit. :person_shrugging:

Now, if Garmin would only allow you to tag the bike used in the FIT file based off of sensors.

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I was kind of shocked when I was setting up my 840 coming from an 800 that it no longer had bike profiles.

that’s why you use intervals.icu :wink:

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If one can bring their debit card or phone and buy a £5 handlebar bell - what are the problems Garmin is solving for £650 here?

Must be navigation. But I just sold my 1040 Solar, as I just can’t see its navigation - between sun glare, sunglasses, burgundy line and tiny blue tick mark - fairly useless. And when I turned the brightness on max, the thing died before the end of a 5 hour ride.

Ok maybe all the fitness platform stuff with adaptive training etc, but how many people use an Edge as a primary device, surely they use a watch so already paid once to unlock this functionality.

Looking at speed and power metrics? For Ā£650? I don’t know.

This is going TomTom way. At least I hope it is.

All power and HR and other metrics are now available on a phone. Fitness and training - clearly there are great platforms like TR for that.

Navigation in front of my eyes is all I really need from Garmin. And one day soon there will be a pair of smart glasses with navi, speakers, connected to phone apps, which is connected to bike peripherals and has an AI chip to discuss and plot a route hands free. And it ain’t gonna be Garmin.

Therefore 1050 is another step towards a dead end while squeezing the margins from as many of us as possible.

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My desire to have my phone mounted to my bike is represented by a number to the left of zero. I don’t even like having it in my jersey pocket but accept that it makes sense to carry for safety reasons.

I also can’t race with a phone, against the rules.

Bike computers aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

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As the big selling point of the 1050 is the screen and its brightness, it would seem you have answered your own question. :wink:

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Personally I have never had any problems seeing the screen when it was angled the ā€žrightā€œ way horizontal or maybe 2-3 degrees tilted upwards and when I wasn’t using polarized glasses. I really like the tft display and the solar charging of the 1040s. The only gripe I have with garmin is the buggy software. It’s cool that they are pumping out device after device but at some point I hope they get the bugs sorted

I’m just not sure the screen will in fact work better. I can’t find its brightness in nits in specs and I presume just like on 1040, it will be auto-dimming to deliver those 20 hours.

But at any rate the same screen with Karoo is Ā£450, so Garmin is charging 50% more - that’s nuts.

iPhone SE with a better screen 1300x750 vs 800x480 is £430.

I may cave in and buy 1050 as a long term Garmin user, but will try to remain strong and consider Karoo.

In regards to racing rules, sure you couldn’t race with disc brakes a few years ago. Rules change to accommodate the tech.

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You are right they have. They rewrote the rules to specifically say that you cannot use a phone as a bike computer where before it was vague and just said like " no 2 way communication devices"

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What?? Why? Where is this a rule? I’m truly confused.

Yes. It’s against UCI rules.

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Also against Ironman rules:

Athletes may not use communication devices of any type, including but not
limited to two-way radios, cell phones, smart watches, smart helmets (i.e.,
helmets enabled with BluetoothĀ® technology), in any distractive manner during
the Race. A ā€œdistractive mannerā€ includes but is not limited to making and
receiving phone calls, sending and receiving text messages, playing music, using
social media, taking photographs, and mounting the device to a bike for
purposes of using the device like a bike computer. Using a communication
device in a distractive manner during the Race will result in disqualification;

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When can we expect 850 to be released?

likely next summer