Mileage will vary… TR always keeps me in the grey zone or unproductive.
I have tried it again and decided to ditch it ( the plans) and go with proper overload. It will work for most maybe but doesn’t know my personal ability / background. Until it takes in more activities its always going to stuggle for people like myself.
Absolutely not the case for me
You dont run much though… or other activities? Suprised your swims dont throw it off.
I really think consistency is what affects both systems (and our bodies) really. All good if I’m consistent, all over the shop when I’m off plan for whatever reason.
Edit
Just looking back, I’m doing rolling road race masters hv with my commute rides as most of the endurance/recovery rides. TR gives me
Sprint and VO2 workouts, and this is the load focus I get. (plus two swims a week and two runs that show up as Base). Weight lifting doesn’t score anaerobic with Garmin which is a bit annoying.
Just had a five day recovery week
Hmm. So it broadly moved up the scale as the load has increased. But I’m making excuses perhaps - I think that should look greener than it does.
Always have to find a way to make progress! If one thing doesn’t work you have to find another way. If you tried TR and found that it just wasn’t enough training load for you…well, I’d say you are exceptional in this regard! So, SALUTE! ;-D
Even high volume plan puts me in the grey zone and the recovey weeks put me the recovery and then detraining zone after a few days. I realise that I might be an outlier. I typically train 10 - 16 hours per week and TR plans typically max out less than 8 hrs. Even choseing additional hours the recovery weeks default to a very low level so I never get out of the grey zone and into the productive zone
No, not really.
Please explain, this seems to be an unuseful reply.
Could not disagree more.
A typical load week is up to 6 hrs max. I almost double this.
The recovery weeks seem to be standard and day off, 45min, 45min, 1.5hrs, day off, 1.5hr, 45min… thats a massive drop verse a build or on week.
There is no progressive overload for myself.
I have now gone back to doing my own thing, I’ll let you know how it works out.
PS I did miss a VO2max work or down grade it due to RLGL to endurance but even if I had completed the session it would not have changed the training load out of grey or detraining.)
Since I’ve been mostly following the TR plan I am staying in the green zone. I was on the LV Master’s plan but found it wasn’t enough work. Switched to the MV plan and and try to do 2 shorter higher intensity indoor rides plus another MTB ride with some hills and a longer endurance ride of 2-4 hours on the gravel bike. That puts me a bit over the weekly planned TSS.
But which plan?
ANd as above it’s not just the work load that counts.
Overall you look okay, focus on low or high aerobic is going to be appropriate for where you are in your training cycle and what you are training for.
Sleep, nutrition, stress, sickness etc not just load.
It’s worth watching some of the YouTube videos where the cyclists follow the garmin watch down to a tee. Most get some pretty impressive results ;like Francis Cade did in a recent video and he was mainly riding 1 hour z2 with a few intervals.
Secondly unproductive from garmin connect is just measuring your heart rate in the workouts. What if the temperature is hotter outside or you’ve had some caffeine? Just bear that in mind. I don’t have a garmin watch but the hear unit loves to tell me I’m unproductive. Cycling in the heat always gives that result.
His gains were basically, off the couch, newb gains. Almost any kind of training would do that for you over six weeks.
When I say that I try my best to be on mute…
We were having a ‘discussion’ the other day and I finally stated… “I’d agree with you and we’d both be wrong; that make you happy?”
Hope you have a comfy couch 
Having been together now for 44 years we can go back and forth and laugh about it.
