Very well explained 
Really good podâŚdefinitely worth a listen.
Lots of lingering raw emotion for those guys from last year.
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this is amateur talk. learn how to cloak your vpn manâŚ
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Iâm intrigued. My vpn knowledge is that I purchased it to use gcn+, but if there is some cloaking thing I can learn how to do to continue to get coverage Iâm 100% for operating in the shade (not professionally of course, no need to go to the SEC)[quote=âSkyewalkr, post:124, topic:88307, full:trueâ]
this is amateur talk. learn how to cloak your vpn manâŚ
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yeah itâs not hard at all. just do some research and youâll get there. now, some entities (google) take a bit more effort than others (netflix), but none are as absurd as the as good old government (china, iran) with their dpiâs and whatnot, yet all are easily overcome. the man cannot keep you down if you donât want to be kept downâŚ
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So has anyone in the US gone ahead with D+ membership via vpn?!
Which one of us is going firstâŚ.someone has to
So someone can correct me if Iâm wrong but I thought a VPN wasnât enough to get the âEuroâ version of Discovery+? I thought it also involved registering in such a way to âtrickâ it into thinking youâre a European resident.
I truthfully donât know but I suppose youâre right. Someone has to try it.
That is my understanding is as well, but someone earlier up thread had a post about how to work that angle.
ETA - I donât think there is any need yet for any of us to try an dodgy practices just yet. We donât know what action plan may or may not be for other regions. It could be as simple as folding the races into the Discovery+ app in those regions (even if the US version does not currently have sports).
As noted in the EC articles and pod, WB / Discovery also own a chunk of FLO, so the races may well end up thereâŚ.which would obviously be massively disappointing and will then see me engaging in dodgy actions. 
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So youâre saying that youâre okay with using this get to entertainment content someone isnât allowed to access, but youâre against using it to overthrow dictatorships?
More seriously, itâs worth noting that using a vpn and related tricks to get around geoblocking isnât always against the contract you have with a provider. I just learned that this is Netflixâs stated policy on VPNs: " Watching Netflix while using a VPN isnât allowed on an ad-supported plan. Live events on Netflix canât be watched while using a VPN."
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the vpn is one thing but thereâs probably another component where you have to have uk (for example) credit card tied to a verified physical uk address in order to subscribe. virtual credit cards are easy, but being tied to an actual overseas address is beyond my capabilities and iâm not sure could be overcome so easilyâŚ
but again iâm going to act like an old man screaming at the sky. WHY does this have to be so difficult just to watch a sport i love? itâs the most absurd thing iâve ever seen and it seriously sours me on the sport. as much as i love it, if they donât want me to watch, i have to turn my back on it
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agreed
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It looks like Discovery Plus is still only in a very small handful of markets.
This is such bull sh!t 
Looking now at Flobikes, and it looks like $29.95/month or $149 a year. Flobikes have some of the gcn race content (with NBC/Peacock having some of the rest?). So a 300% increase in price for 1/2 the stuff (not to mention the lack of the documentaries etc).
Realistically, I can cope without 75% of the races on GCN, but the 25% of the races on GCN I really are about are split across Flobikes and Peacock.
So another option other than FloBikes + Peacock will be needed.
Assuming FLO ends up being the answer for the US (and this is very much just speculation and dot-connecting), it would likely be with the transfer of rights for the races that GCN had for the US region, so in theory, all the gaps would be covered.
In theory and if FLO is the solution providedâŚand I pray fervently it is not.
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I felt GCN in US wasnât very good for coverage anyways, besides the price. I always used VPN to UK and it was great. I tried to VPN Netflix to UK from US but it didnât work. Hopefully I can get a UK discovery plus but Iâm gonna wait to hear some positive reports from others before dropping cash on it
For those thinking GCN+ closed because of financial insolvency, I think you are incorrect.
(Raising subscription prices could have addressed that issue.)
My understanding is that GCN took a major investment in order to get the race streaming off the ground. The major investor is (or sold to) Discovery/Warner Brothers.
Discover/WB donât care if GCN makes money or not - they just want to suck the blood out of your little wallet into their one-size-fits-all least-common-denominator streaming service.
In this case that means screwing over a (relatively) small passionate community and dedicated content creators. Discover/WB couldnât care less.
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I feel itâs getting to the point where itâs not the subscription fee anymore. Itâs more about how much ad revenue can they generate. GCN and others prob canât generate enough advertisers for the hours the event is broadcast. No one is out bidding The Feed or Alpecin for spots during the Tour here in the USA.
As for cycling coverage on the television, in Texas we get hours of High School football and â0â coverage of any local bicycling events.
But the dearth of cycling awareness in America is sad. I thought that part of it was the âEurocentristâ rules of âProfessional Cyclingâ. The US Postal cycling team had to be sponsored by a European team to compete on the worldâs stage. Corporations either havenât figured out how to monetize the sport, or donât want to for some reason. Heck, I was shocked to find out that a local college actually had a cycling team at one point, and no one had ever heard of it.
Most âAmericansâ find cycling boring yet will watch golf, and people riding around in gas guzzling cars for HOURS. (With many watching the later admitting to watching âfor the crashesâ) My idiot brother âaccidentallyâ watched Tour de France coverage and was, according to his wife, TRANSFIXED, focused on the coverage.
My point is that if âcyclingâ got more support, if there was a âTour of Americaâ, if there were âTour of [insert your state name here]â races/tours, people would give a crap about cycling in general, and follow it. I remember, being at university, there was a âTour of Michiganâ rolling through the state capital, and people lined up at the barricades to watch them screaming by at breakneck speed. I was there!! I was amazed at the speeds.
Just watching a segment on MSNBC on the surging popularity of F1 racing in America, and how even teenagers are drawn to that âsportâ. THAT could be cycling in America!! âAmerica is finally catching up with the rest of the worldâ was just said with no irony. (YEAH! Letâs expand gas guzzling car racing in a time when climate change is both searing and drowning the planet? Really?!)
Bike racing needs to be more prominent than it is currently. People can be drawn to this sport, and it wonât have the baggage of âmotorsportsâ. Out of all the things that could ahve come out of Europe, itâs Formula 1 Racing? Really?
Services like GCN+ would have a much larger audience, obviously. How can we get cycling to be taken seriously by the people in this country.
But is watching bike racing increasing or decreasing in draw across Europe?
And I was shocked to see mountain bike racing on CNBC! It must have been a slow weekend? I think it was live, and it totally blew me away. Like finding TdF on NBCSN, although it wasnât very consistent, sadly.