I’ve recorded a 32+ hour activity on my 530. It was fully charged at the start and zero charging occurred during the activity. Still had significant battery life left(in the mid to upper 20%'s, IIRC).
I’ll qualify that 32 hour activity. I was NOT navigating a route, I WAS recording GPS(using basic GPS only, not any of the higher resolution GPS options). I was connected to a Stages Gen III L PM, and Garmin Dual HRM. BT and WiFi were turned off. Screen brightness was set to 10%. Here’s the kicker though, During the overnight portion(s)(~15 hours) the screen backlight was turned on constant! I think my Di2 Battery might have been lower than the 530’s🤣
I’ve done MULTIPLE 12+ hour activities on different 530’s. I honestly don’t know what Garmin could do to improve the battery life on this thing!
I agree here, and mainly because I recently rode with someone who got the K2.
And the issue wasn’t that the ride was long and the computer died. The issue was that it was a regular 6hr ride on Mallorca, but since they stopped for coffee 2 times and whatnot, it died.
I mean, thats just ridiculous.
I shouldn’t ever have to worry about a 5-6hr ride + coffee and lunch stop, that my computer will die.
New HH user here and not too much new to report. Seems to be 8-10% HR with full nav and most stuff enabled.
I cam from wahoo bolt and then recently the wahoo bolt V2. The V2 also seemed to be about 8-10% hr with nav running but my eyes seemed to have gotten worse or the colour screen is harder for me to read…I actually prefer the original Elemnt.
Regarding battery life, for me I don’t trust any device when it gets down to 40-50% so I charge it after most rides as with all my stuff like lights/camera.
I’ve regularly had iPhones/android phones that say I have 30-40% battery left and then all of a sudden just die so I’ll always charge them up fully. Every now and then I’ll run them completely dead as it’s meant to be good for the battery to do that but charging regularly is not an issue for me.
Following a course on Garmin 530 I did a 7 hour ride last month. Radar, heart rate monitor, and power meter. Think I ended up around 50% battery, not exactly sure. Last week I realized brightness was set to 60% so I dropped that down to 20%.
And that’s part of my problem with garmin. When the 1030 released it changed the game in terms of battery duration. The K2 and 1000 have similar capacity. My issue is that garmin sacrificed everything on the device for battery. You are right, there’s not much more they can do in terms of battery, because they already did it. But in their pursuit of battery duration, they ruined other aspects. This is where the K2 really shines. There’s a reason there’s so much complaint about the K2 battery. Everything else just works really well.
That being said, would I like more battery duration from the K2? Absolutely. But not at the cost of anything else on the K2. It has enough duration for 99% of my rides. They shrunk the size from the K1 to K2. I would’ve preferred the K2 be slightly bigger if it allowed a bigger battery.
If we talk software and support of said software, K2 wins hands down. Garmin software is just garbage and it takes forever for fixes. And those fixes break other things along the way. I read somewhere above where someone said they shouldn’t have to disable things to get battery life. Well, I shouldn’t have to reset my garmin and recreate my profiles after every gd software release, just for it to work. Last thing I’ll say is the *30 garmins are basically senior citizens in their final state. K2 is a teenager that is quickly growing and improving.
Seriously I have no tolerance for garbage software. My only complaint on the 530 is the button presses to pause/rewind intervals, but I use that maybe 5 times a year. And initial setup with buttons is a buzz kill, but I did that 2.5 years ago. Reading your comments it’s like I should be suffering from PTSD and in need of serious psychiatric help. But somehow I’ve been using the 530 four to five times a week all this time, and I haven’t lost my mind.
On 1030 it’s terrible. They actually had major problems with it at the beginning and had to replace many units. I also feel the issue with 1030 is an undersized cpu as well as its software. I still have my 1000 and 1030. After using them all, I consider my 1030 a Jitterbug relative to my K2.
With the Hammerhead being basically a phone, is there a risk of it getting worse over time as it gets bloated (like your phone is made obsolete so quickly)?
Also, the SIM thing is the one massive selling point to me. Does it require a phone type hardware and Android OS to use a SIM, or is there a chance Garmin or Wahoo could implement the use of one in their next generation devices?
You can easily add LTE capability to just about any product. Some of my customers use small LTE radio modules like this one https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/453-00010/776-453-00010-ND/11617249 and it costs roughly $55 in small volumes. No Android OS required. Would be straightforward for Garmin or Wahoo or any company to add a module like that to an existing or new product.
every new Garmin device will be released with old technology, when BLT5 is standard, you can be sure they use an older 4.x chip and so on.
Or the Index S2 scale, you have to use batteries instead of withings rechargable scale and so on.
The funniest thing, Garmin is to stupid to handle the batterie load on Edge 830, everytime i switch off/on my Edge, again 2-3% battery is lost.
So if you switch off/on your Edge fifty times or so, the battery is empty!
even though they have basically good software, they keep screwing it up with unimaginably stupid bugs
I sold my Forerunner 945 for different reasons, but be honest, this new Beta option of Firmware is the best:
Added the Resting Heartrate True-Up feature. RHR data now gets trued-up so that all devices tied to the same account will have the same RHR value.
So that means my calculated Recovery Time never worked since the beginning because they didn’t sync it via True-Up from FR945 to Edge 830
How long are this devices on the market?
to late for me to wait for fixes like this for years!
Bloating and Obsolete are two different things, bloating tend to happen because you install additional software and that’s sub systems are also installed (Like TrainerRoad install Electron on Windows devices), and these take up system resources, Obsolete, is more that the manufacturer doesn’t release software updates, my Fenix 6 won’t get as many (or any) updates, now that the Fenix 7 is released, but the lack of software updates doesn’t make it obsolete, my 820 doesn’t receive updates, but it still works fine as GPS (well, works fine is a bit of a stretch, it’s a 820) and will continue to do so for a long time
Karoo updates work on the 1 & 2, so it’ isn’t really comparible to Samsung e.t.c, where they are interested in getting you to the next phone, for older devices is sort of pulled, so newer software won’t work on older devices
I’ve owned an 830, when it was rather new on the market.
First impression was great. Owning it was a nightmare. Software bugs killed it for me, went to Bolt v2 when that came out and mostly happy ever since. Just my experience.
But there is no Pro Team with using Karoo2?
Is TR working on Outdoor workouts for Karoo2?
I am not sure, when i get a good price for my Edge 830 i will buy a Karoo2
Agree with this 100%. The K2 was great, so many awesome features. But the battery is a deal breaker unfortunately. Until they fix it, it’s a no from me.
I see the K2 as a Tesla with a range of 100 miles. Could it suit most of my driving? Sure. But it’s a massive limiter for me. Whereas my Garmin is a Hybrid Honda Civic. Reliable, amazing mileage, and I just don’t have to worry about it. Does it have all the flashy features? No, but I don’t need all of them when it drains the battery.
I’m not a fan of the SIM, especially when it’s a requirement for some of the features like Live Track. Just give me the option to link to my normal cell phone.
