Help me get to a 300w FTP before the year ends

Same here but my watch doesnt report / support the calculated power ( Forerunner 745)

I ran a 10 mile TT the weekend 1hr 14min and that was calculated ave 345 watts (7:27 pace per mile) 129 TSS for reference (oh and 72kgs)

Yup. Here’s what I found.

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Ok, I think I figured it out. I went through my last bunch of runs to look at where my ‘run power’ is in correlation with my Z2 HR and entered an educated guess for threshold run power. You can then recalculate in Training Peaks and it dropped me down to 87 TSS for that run.

Thank you for pointing this out to me, as I always want honest numbers. Appreciate the collaboration on this :v:t2:

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I was doing my search on training hours for myself in xert facebook group, and accidentally came across this below article which i suddenly remember your thread.

So, it might be helpful to you. Toolbox: Front Loading Periodization Results - PezCycling News

Also going to try and break the 300w result for the ftp before the end of the year. I did an Ai FTP which put me at 292 about 3 weeks ago, was 282 before.

I normally fit in about 4-5hrs during the week using train now and a long ride on the weekend which is a blast with the mates. I recently threw myself down the road, which beat me up a bit. Though all in all ok, but was put antibiotics due to a pretty rough hole I put in my arm, These seemed to limit stop my hr getting up, and think with the ftp increase and this, I’ve struggled with V02. So the week after the off I did a lot of zone 2 for me. Last week was my first solid week since the off and consisted of

Mon 2.30hrs zone 2 on zwift
Tues Huffaker, blew in this hoping it was cos I was a bit tired from previous few days of a lot of zone 2, but V02 has been hard recently, when it was my strength
Wed kid workout, pretty steady this
Thurs rest
Friday Dude -1, got through it, was pretty tough, but it’s ticked off
Saturday, Zwift Kiss 100km, took it pretty steady when I normally go all out in this, which is normally around 250-260np for me.
475TSS

This week I going to be a struggle to get much in, as working away and access to an exercise bike but its a laid back jobbie and I really struggle on them.

Hoping @614irondad and myself can beast this goal at the end of the year

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I would be interested what “great success” means. As in peaked perfectly for the championship race? No injuries? No plateau or burnout? What was done before this? Was their a season break? If so how long?

Sooooo many questions. Blanket statements like this are hard to take at face value.

I would HIGHLY recommend tracking your TSS separately for running and cycling and avoid suing a mash of the two together, if at all possible.

YOu can track the sports indivudually in your PMC on Training Peaks.

Not all TSS is equal and mashing running and cycling together distorts the training loads as a whole…

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Agreed. And I use free TP which is limited so only running is held in TP, TR is my source of truth for cycling.

Good luck @614irondad

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How long was your 10k run?

Well, guys and gals…I think I have made a dispiriting discovery about my body’s reaction to structured training. As I have said before, this is ‘uncharted waters’ for me, as I’ve never reached a 300w FTP before in my years using TR as a multisport athlete. I think, for now, that will continue to be the case.

With less than 4 weeks to go, I had a Ramp Test on the schedule for today, and I did AIFTP just for fun to detect where my progress might be and I had a +0 change in my FTP…yup, it stayed exactly the same :neutral_face:

As I am continuing to keep a base around the multisport life, I continue to run and strength train on the off days that I’m not doing my TR workouts, so I have not increased the overall volume of my training, but I have been very consistent with the plan’s TSS and prescribed workouts for the week, apart from sliding workouts between days of the week.

With that being said, I just don’t think I have the volume right now to move the needle to where I want it to be, and that if I want to get to that 300 number, I need to simply do more OR be able to handle higher intensity…and with my off days from cycling NOT being actual rest days (running, strength), but getting in workouts for my other disciplines (mind you, I haven’t even started back to swimming) I’m just not sure if this is possible at this given time.

As the saying goes, If you want something you have never had, you must be willing to do something you have never done. For the most part, my life has always been (at most) 3 rides a week, sometimes 4 and I just don’t think that will cut it to get me to that 300 right now, unless I increase intensity or the length in time of those 3 rides.

While I could stop all other disciplines and really crank up this experiment, that would not be the right answer for me right now as i’m prepping for 2 - 20k trail races (1 in January & 1 in February) followed by a half marathon in April.

While this was fun to experiment, I need to look at the bigger picture ahead in regards to my training.

So, what did I learn from this…

  1. consistent structured training is never a straight line in progression
  2. As Thomas Jefferson once said
    “If you want something you’ve never had, You must be willing to do something you’ve never done.”
    I think this rings very true here, that if I want to get past that threshold of 300, I either need to increase volume or intensity…or both!
    I think my body is so used to structured training that it knows where I like to be and my body has hit a point of diminishing returns at 3 rides per week, and if I want to break through that next barrier, I may now know what I need to do to get there.
  3. I appreciate this community and all the different viewpoints, advice, and approaches to training. I will continue on with the plan, and see if I’m just at a stalling point, and MAYBE I will try and mix in an extra ride or 2 here and there.

As Jonathan always likes to say, this is an N=1 experiment, so YMMV…but for me, this is what I learned about myself and my structured training.

Thank you all for the advice up until now, and if there is anything worth posting about that happens going forward I will be sure to report back.

If you have questions, comments, or further advice, feel free to chime in.

Until then, happy training.

Thanks, all! :v:t2:

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Gutted for you, that you didn’t get there. Unfortunately I didn’t either :(. Training in the first 2 week of December was difficult with working away a bit but still managed to get in a good few training session and along with using train now, I added a weekly long zone 2 session which I’ve never done before. I finished work on the weekend before Christmas and was hoping for a good week of training with a view to doing the ramp test some point during the week following Christmas weekend. Disappointingly I came down with a heavy cold that first week which still hasn’t fully cleared up :neutral_face: .

Just out of interest and also in disappointment as not been well enough to do the ramp, I used AI threshold detection just see what that gave me from the solid few months I’d had since I’d last used it over doing the ramp, and it came back with 297, would have a nice consolidation for it to come back with 300 but not to be. Once this cold clears I am going to give myself a month to go at it again. I’ve done plenty zone 2 whilst struggling to shift this, so hopefully that will be a good base to build on.

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Well there is more of a chance before this year ends… about 360 days to go. :wink:

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Did he ramp test on NYE then or give up before year end?

Before

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