I tried to self coach for a month, here's what I learned

This is exactly why I got an actual coach, I really needed to outsource the mental load as I just did not have the brain space for doing my own programming anymore.

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Wow, I am embarrassed to admit I overcomplicated my life far more than necessary :man_facepalming: I lap each work/rest interval individually and then inevitably get stuck on figuring out where the **** I am on interval 37. Damn.

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I never thought of it either. Definitely the easy way.

Here I thought you meant using the lap button at the end of each under, over, on, or off. I’m flat out even remembering to press the lap button when I’m boxed. :laughing:

Oh no, I definitely meant use of lap button every 30s. Turns out, that’s not at all needed, but somehow the simplistic solution of “Lap, wait X minutes until done” where X is the # of work intervals just didn’t come to me :man_facepalming:

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I “self coach” and have to say that the TR calendar makes it so easy to set up a season and move things around when needed.

That said… I’ve thought a lot about getting a coach lately but I’m pretty sure I’d drive them crazy. At this point in life I will always choose a fun outdoor ride when the weather is good (I’m on the CA coast where fog and windy afternoons are the norm so when it’s nice, I can’t pass it up). Or when my buddies hit me up for a ride… Structure be damned.

Wouldn’t have done that in my college or post-collegiate running days when I had a defined goal, but now with my 50s around the corner my priority is solely doing what I enjoy the most.

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Have they finally fixed the push week thing?

Depends on the coach and your goals. I’ve had a coach for like 7 years now. When I’ve been training for big events that are A races (Ironman, unbound) I know she would give me a side eye if I was like I feel like riding my mtb on Saturday instead of a planned long endurance ride or something especially the closer to the event it was.

But outside of that even though she lays out a plan she’s not getting bent out of shape if I occasionally switch things up.

And she has plenty of athletes who have way more chaotic schedules than I do so she has to adjust plenty of things.

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Eh, you might be surprised.

You’re probably right… I coach teenagers so certainly know the “pain” of athletes going rogue and doing their own thing. I roll with it though (with an occasional eye roll @TooManyDogs) so I guess it could work for me too. ha.

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Coaching teenagers certainly is different.

As an adult, I’m paying the coaching fee, and communicate with my coach which races each year are REALLY important. In the end I can do what I want but if I start going rogue a lot she’ll let me know how that will impact me being prepared for races.

I’m also not an elite athlete so there’s a big difference between somebody always shooting for podium and somebody like me just finishing and trying to beat some time goal I’ve set for a race.

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This is a brilliant point, just wanted to emphasize it. Many of my workouts are very simple, and thus easy to remember on the road. I do have more complex stuff for trainer users, but ultimately if you can remember 3x15 on 3 min rest, then you can do it without staring at your head unit. Those simple workouts are more than enough to get you where you want to go.

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Are you me? Church leadership commitment, almost 4 kids at home (5, 7, and soon twins), full-time job.

I’ve had one coach use workouts like these for endurance/tempo:

In my past days, I would have stressed over completing perfectly and would have rode in ERG mode indoors or pulled my hair if it was outdoors season. I now realize it is to stop athletes from getting bored. You get the same workout by riding at target IF and varying as you feel like it (or not).

I had another one prescribe like this, no workout created:

“1 x 30m @ 245-265w. Full range of Endurance the rest of the ride (165-205w)”

Straight to the point. Ride, do the interval, ride some more. I’d trust to get more detail if it was important to do interval near beginning, middle, or end.

I should also mention that the “keep it simple enough that you can track in your head without a programmed workout” point wasn’t mine, but to be quite honest I don’t remember what blog/podcast/book I read it in.

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Very similar to TR’s indoor vs outdoor pushed workouts.

The indoor version of black is 24 intervals + WU/CD. Outoor is one main working set with a 50w range + WU/CD.

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To be honest, stressing those sorts of details really doesn’t make much of a difference.

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Maybe I’m just over complicating it. From what I’ve read so far it looks like a much less exact plan would have most of the same benefits.

I still think that I’d need a reasonably accurate ftp measure so that know what to base the next 4 weeks upon?

The answer to this question is always yes - training by power with an improperly set FTP (high or low) doesn’t make much sense. Depending on your FTP, you should be within within 2-3%, which is a 5-10W+ swing.

Have you listened to the podcast this week?

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