Very interesting
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Hah…as I was reading I was thinking “yeah, slap a Zwift Ride frame on that bad boy for the ultimate setup”….
Of course, @dcrainmaker was already ahead of me. 
Looks like a great option moving forward.
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I didn’t know about such thing as Zwift Cog.
But that’s exactly why I don’t use the sim mode - the noise (horrible) and in fact a hassle of changing gears both front and rear… and it looks that solution solved the problem entirely.
And that “zwift race mode” that is also as I read nothing new solves delay issues.
I want this badly and I want it now!
It’s not even expensive, my stupid trainer was more expensive…
Man if this one holds up and delivers on everything it will cause huge headaches for the competition.
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What I don’t understand about this (much like the elite solution) is how do the virtual shifters work if you aren’t using zwift?
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They don’t as things stand. Erg or single speed.
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Just checked the video. It sounds great.
As an original KICKR Core user, I can’t help but wonder that this unit looks a lot like a copied version of the core. I don’t know what happened to the wahoo law suit but I get the feeling behind it.
The Victory a copy of the Core? No. The VOLT was… according to the claims. The Victory has a redesigned resistance unit. With the list of features, the Victory is what I would have expected the Core v3 or v4 to have been if Wahoo kept refreshing it.
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Out of curiosity, what are features that are missing and worthwhile? The biggest missing feature in my mind is virtual gearing together with a Zwift Cog-type product. Both seem to not require new hardware. The other non-feature I would like is long-term reliability: my Elite Suito’s power numbers are off compared to my Quarq, both, in offset and slope. Initially, they were very close.
When it comes to indoor training, the most interesting product (to me) is not a trainer, but something like the Caveworks Rivet or the Elite Squaro. Sharing a trainer is a pita if you have to swap bikes (and free hubs).
All Core versions (right back to the 2018 OG) support these with a firmware update.
Missing from the CORE?
WiFi: Simplifies everything. It just works. No messing about with BLE/ANT+.
Sensor Bridging: Simplicity again. Also useful for AppleTV BLE limit workaround.
10Hz: Because it’s nice to have faster feedback to your effort on the pedals.
ODO: Useful for knowing just how much life/value you squeezed out of the trainer (or to check pre-owned prior to purchase).
Value/Price: If the Victory does well when it lands at US$399, it’ll bury almost every other trainer on the market.
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The EU price for the Victory is 500€, the same as the Wahoo Kickr Core.
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It’s priced the same as the Core in Australia too. Hopefully I can get one soon.
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Should be €449 when their distributor returns the price to what JB have set.
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That’s a good list, although with the exception of 10 Hz measurements, none of them seem to require any major hardware revisions and are mostly software features.
- The odometer feature is a good one, hadn’t thought of that one. I’d love to know whether my Suito needs any service.
- Wifi, or, more generally, network connectivity (with a cable) would be much appreciated, then my trainer could update itself, too, just like my Bolt does. Plus, it is sometimes annoying to deactivate Bluetooth on a grabby device to ensure all devices connect to the correct device. Is there a standard to talk to trainers via wifi? A networking port should also be included, at least on the more expensive trainers.
- I’m surprised 10 Hz measurement frequency isn’t more standard.
However, all of these changes are rather small in the grand scheme of things. I’d trade many of them in for good quality control and the trainer just working a few years after I purchased it.
For that price differential, I’d still stick to the Kickr Core most likely. My experience with Wahoo’s customer service has been excellent.
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CAD 799 in Canada and a Kicker core CAD859.
Not really cheaper than the competition. Although I think it packs more features than the basic Core. Not Sure.
Well Well Well. it seems that one @GPLama has many nice things to say about the Jet Black Victory. If it’s a choice between this and the Saris H3+ for the same price ($399 in the US) Why would you buy a Saris except for the fact that there may be no Jet Blacks on the shelves. (bottom shelf actually because they’re kinda heavy)
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Still not sure why CAN is 799. The exchange rate as of today for 399US would be 544CAD.
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It is going to be interesting to see how it sells. The only bad thing I have heard about it so far is to do with the price in Canada.
If jetblack has timely access to sufficient stock, it seems as though it is poised to take a big share of the market in in the next few months.
How will the other brands respond?
Pre-orders are open here in the UK, shipping late in October and already with the warning that stock is limited.
Was going to pre order one but that is sold out already so I got put on a waiting list.
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For me, its not a problem with how good their customer service is, its how often I had to use it with my Core
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