Masters Plans and More Launched Today! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

Wild. I have never noticed that. Thanks, and sorry for the stupid question!

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Restart fixed it
Thanks

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Thanks Nate!

But I do really like the feature! I was playing around with polarized training that seems to accomplish something similar to these new Master’s plans and was worried that when I got to my specialty phase, there would be too many intensity days to recover from the volume, so I would have to drop the volume to make it work. Now thanks to this new feature, I won’t have to!

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Currently I have it set that if I keep pedaling at the end of a workout it automatically adds 10 min… could you just have it keep going indefinitely or until you stop pedaling?

Isn’t another interpretation of the “new plans” that they are basically LV with added endurance for the actual MV and HV plans?

You’re catering for the group of people that did this for a long time by themselves adding rides outside a plan. Or that come in and pick too high a volume when they start TR based on outside riding before.
I understand that that’s a high number of people. But why not leave the original MV and HV for the people that like it.

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Excellent, looking forward to trying this out. I’ve been modifying the polarised plans to allow for an older body with diverse activities, will be great if the Masters plans reduce the need to update. Two thumbs!!

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No, Thursday’s hard and Sunday’s moderate workouts have been replaced with endurance in the MV plans. (I’m not familiar with HV plans)

@Nate_Pearson would be nice to get an answer?

Apologies if I’m missing something here, but if I try and use the Masters Low Volume plan it still prescribes 3 ‘Hard’ sessions.

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I think this is labeling issue. If you look plan itself, Thursday is actually Z2 (at least this is how I see it on corresponding plans)

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The new Masters plans have 3 weeks on, 1 week off.

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In the new General Base, what are the benefits/drawbacks of replacing the Sunday Sweet Spot rides with an Endurance ride ? Is there a way to find the old Sweet Spot Base Plans (other than going back through our workout history and creating them manually?)

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Loaded up the new plans. I kind of liked the longer SS WOs but I trust it well evaluated to revert back to an endurance WO. If I remember correctly this was changed since “no one did them”. Will be interersting to see the future compliace rate.
But I have another issue. Base 2 MV seems to differ in my calendar vs whats shown in the plans.
From my calendar, 3 endurance, 1 SS and 1 threshold


In the “original plan”, 2 endurance, 2 SS and 1 threshold.

The latter seems more correct.

Sunday’s supposedly were always supposed to be longer endurance workouts but got replaced by achievable sweetspot workouts because no one did them. Until a few months ago there used to be a note for the week which said which endurance ride you could do instead

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While I agree with everything you said, I think there needs to be a bump up in the length of the Sunday ride. I know Nate said they’re going to fix it, but currently, I think going from a 60-90 min SS to a 120 min Z2 is going to lead to people saying it’s a step down. Once those Sunday rides are 3+ hours, I think you’ll have something that looks more like most of the plans we see outside TR.

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I think right now the automatic “keep pedaling” is 10 minutes only at the end of the scheduled time. What I’ve been doing is adding to the scheduled time by using the “Extend Cooldown” buttons for 5 or 10 minute increments until it’s 10 minutes less than the extra time I want, then keep pedaling for 10 minutes. I don’t bother changing the target watts, just go at 50-60% FTP for that time. So, for example, if all I can squeeze in is an extra 20 minutes, once I finish the last interval, I’ll “extend cooldown” for 10 minutes, then keep pedaling for 10 minutes.

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Looks like Masters vs non-Masters plan :thinking:

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You can’t really though, at least, not without additional faff. Extend cooldown adds time at a cooldown intensity, not at Z2 work. If you’re in resistance/slope mode that’s fine - you just ignore the intensity target and treat it as ‘add time’. If you’re in ERG mode, though, you have to mess around either changing mode or fiddling with the intensity, both of which are a bit of a pain.

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As an upper 50’s masters these plans are a big improvement for me. It seems every time I start thinking about looking at other training programs TR comes out with a nice update. First it was AT which really helped with the intensity progression. Now these plans allow me to do within the plans what I had been doing on my own for the last couple of years - two interval days on the trainer during the week with a long outdoor ride or two on the weekends. (being in TX it is difficult to do long intervals outside) I first just switched my current plan over which seemed to work fine. But since I was only a few weeks in and targeting a May event I decided to delete and build a new plan which also worked fine. I moved hard days to Tue/Thursday and put a 2 hour easy ride on Sat. I will likely do my usual 4-5 hour ride which will require a manual alternate selection each week. I also like the ability to set duration for each day so I can customize to my particular daily schedule.

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