Hi TR team. I managed a 40m TT outside at 105% and associated it with a workout that was a good fit. That gave me a 6 PL bump on threshold.
I failed my next workout miserably so removed the association. But my PL’s never reverted from 8 back to 2. Is there a way to fix this? It’s been a month and my levels aren’t decaying.
I’m not 100% sure if this behavior is intentional or not, so I’m going to reach out to the team to see what they have to say…
This is actually a perfect example of why we don’t recommend associating rides with workouts that you didn’t actually complete.
This was basically a race effort, and if you tell the software that this was a normal workout for you and you were able to pass it, it’s going to think that these types of efforts should be a part of your weekly training.
Additionally, the work you did doesn’t actually match the intervals in the workout that you selected, so the data becomes a bit skewed.
You can actually fix this yourself by editing the activity and removing it from your Progression Levels as shown below. I did this for you and it looks like your Threshold PL is back down to 6.7
Nothing useful to add, but thanks for posting that screen shot of “big house”. Mental note to avoid that when looking for over/under workouts. When the “under” is 99%, that’s just a cruel joke calling it an over/under.
Fantastic Eddie, I wasn’t aware of that checkbox. The outcome of dropping PL’s down to 6 is in the right direction, but still surprising it’s so high. Threshold workouts are my kryptonite.
I hear your advice on not associating workouts with unstructured rides, and will take it on.
The interval on this ride seems highly structured though and a good candidate for associating with an outdoors workout. I used TR’s zone creation tool (great feature!) and the interval is 80% compliant.
What kind of compliance rules would the TR team recommend?
Honestly, at this point, we wouldn’t recommend associating rides with workouts at all unless you followed the structure of the workout entirely.
Our scoring tool is pretty complex, and unless your intentions were to follow a TrainerRoad workout closely, it’s kind of like comparing apples to oranges from the tool’s perspective.
At some point, these situations won’t cause issues when we’re able to score all rides, not just our workouts with confidence and accuracy.
I do have one last question for you though. Did you find and associate this workout with your ride after the fact, or did you find the workout first and load it up to a head unit before the ride? If so, which kind did you use? It looks like Wahoo, but I just need to verify.