Strava API Agreement Update

[jcolp]

@dcrainmaker I’d be interested in knowing how many exclusions are official and signed agreements, versus just an email back/forth.

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@firemunki

If the sky does fall I’d miss Wanderer for the new roads challenge

wrt Wandrer: Strava API update

[Pbase]

That’s such a typically negative response from them. Just rubs me wrong.

[dcrainmaker]

Most of these sound more verbal, than anything else. I’m sure the smarter apps have at least gotten a written e-mail from them comfirming it. But I’m guessing almost none of the apps have actual contractual updates.

[jcolp]

Ah, the type of assurance that can change without any notice.

[Pbase]

@dcrainmaker

However, there are apps left in the wake without exclusions. Including an absolutely massive one that may be announcing today or tomorrow, and the scale is well beyond even my theoretical max’s. With numbers that make Strava’s “0.1%” distraction mantra pretty silly-sounding.

Does that app start with a letter somewhere between O and Q?

[OreoCookie]

@dcrainmaker

Yeah, TrainerRoad, VeloViewer, and Xert all have largely gotten the OK (with minor changes in some cases).

That is good to know. But I’ll still turn off syncing once I can (I have a Wahoo Bolt v1 and a Rival) and then likely not use the app again.

@dcrainmaker

Most of these sound more verbal, than anything else. I’m sure the smarter apps have at least gotten a written e-mail from them comfirming it.

That sounds like amateur hour on Strava’s part, i. e. the company is run by people who don’t act like people running a (multimillion dollar) business. Things like written, litigable agreements and boring things like memoranda of understandings (in preparation of these agreements), how do you trust Strava to keep their end of the deal?

[jcolp]

Well, or it’s on purpose so that it leaves the door open for them to change their mind easier even if it brings about backlash. Anyone using the API shouldn’t trust Strava to keep their end of the deal unless it is in a written agreement. If an API user requests a written agreement and it’s not possible, that should be even more of a red flag.

[OreoCookie]

@jcolp

Well, or it’s on purpose so that it leaves the door open for them to change their mind easier even if it brings about backlash.

Yes, but it still isn’t how you’d want to run a serious company. Written contracts protect both sides. Of course, most “partners” of Strava are pretty helpless. The ones that can push back are, for the most part, the ones who seem to get exemptions.

@jcolp

Anyone using the API shouldn’t trust Strava to keep their end of the deal unless it is in a written agreement. If an API user requests a written agreement and it’s not possible, that should be even more of a red flag.

Yup, this.
If I were @Nate_Pearson, I wouldn’t tell my team(s) working on syncing to slow down one bit.

[mcneese.chad]

New Early Access Feature: Improved Activity Sync with Wahoo

Today we’re excited to debut a new early access feature: an improved connection and syncing process for Wahoo head units! This new early access feature allows Wahoo head units to send completed activities directly to TrainerRoad, so we get the most accurate data for your workouts and eliminating the need for third-party intermediaries. The new connection also improves the reliability and speed of sending planned TrainerRoad outside workouts to your Wahoo head units. And finally, it enables Trai…

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@dcrainmaker

Yeah, TrainerRoad, VeloViewer, and Xert all have largely gotten the OK (with minor changes in some cases).

Did I miss something? When did TR get the okay to proceed as usual/with minor tweaks?

[AldridgePrior]

This app, Crickles, is a tiny niche application, so the following won’t impact many people, but the two fellas behind it have been doing potentially very important work while providing a useful service for those of us who like to keep an eye out for arrhythmias and other potentially irregular cardiac events:

Crickles after Strava

Strava has instructed us not to publish a journal paper that we think may be potentially helpful to practitioners and researchers in athlete heart health. Now, Strava’s recent announcement that further restricts apps using their API makes it impossible for Crickles to provide any meaningful service using the API so from Wednesday the Crickles Navigator is coming down , at least temporarily.

We approached Strava for their consent to publish our paper, as required by the terms of use of the Strava API. They gave us a robust No citing privacy concerns, even though we did not propose to publish any athlete-specific data or data from which any user could ever be identified. Strava told us that they did run partnerships with the scientific community on research projects and that we could apply to their program but when we asked for details on how to apply they never responded.

[dsirrom]

Building on this, could the researchers who’ve been denied access to Strava API and given a NO to publishing useful insights derived from Strava data obtain similar insights from analysis of the large TR dataset? If so, maybe TR could find an agreeable way to work with them for future benefit?

[patricksudol]

This went completley under my radar but Cronometer will no longer support syncing with Strava.:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cronometer/comments/1h6vq54/new_about_our_strava_integration/

[Pbase]

If I’m looking for a silver lining in all this, it’s that I’ve learned about a lot of apps that I had never heard of. I hope they all survive this!

[ZeroGravity]

For those who use Zwift to run their workouts and also track via intervals.icu, the integration between Zwift and intervals is now available. One can now download Zwift activities and push planned workouts on the intervals calendar.

Intervals.icu and Zwift Integration is live!

[TravisM]

Trail Forks sent out an email today saying that the Strava changes have basically made Strava impossible to use for their platform. They’re encouraging users to use direct sync methods from devices.

I would not be surprised if this kills a significant chunk of Trailfork’s user base and the trail data that was aggregated there.

[Teddy_Focaccia]

Trailforks is owned and run by Outside now, so this is a real bad guy vs. bad guy battle. Let them fight!

[MeMeToo]

Just trying to use the Sync to Strava button at the bottom of my workout as It has not uploaded to Strava. The button says “processing” but the ride isn’t appearing on Strava! Is that the Strava link now broken?

[MeMeToo]

yep agreed.