Strava leaderboards no longer free

Its pure marketing, you are more likely to sign up if you can see you got 15th place, but you cant see all your mates places

Where if you had no idea, you probably wouldnt care as much

Its not really about cutting costs, more about raising revenue IMO

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Ads would be better than what I see now (as a non payer).

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They need to increase revenue for sure, but nobody likes to be leveraged into paying more. TR should create its own platform like Strava. I would buy it because there would be value not because they leveraged me.

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I decided to activate the 60 day free trial, because hey, why not.

First thing I experience when digging into the leaderboards? It’s not working right. The time filters don’t work. I select This Week, and it shows me the same as if I selected Today. This is a very popular segment with hundreds of riders per day. It shows ten people today, and if I select this week, it shows the same ten people (and doesn’t include my result from yesterday.)

Video: https://streamable.com/53bkxm

Okay, whatever. So I try out the route builder. Give it a go, build out a route, hit Save; nothing. Hit save a bunch of times? Nothing. Close the route, go to My Routes, it’s not there. Try setting up a quick point to point 2 second route? Nothing. Chrome and Safari, hitting the Save button just does nothing for me.

Classic Strava, same as it ever was.

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I like Strava. I’ve been on it for since 2012. I upload my rides through through an outside app. It was first garmin and now wahoo. I occasionally used the Strava app to record runs when my forerunner watch kicked the bucket. I also used the strava app for bike rides one weekend when I was between devices.

I was a paying member for a short time but dropped it since there really wasn’t any value for me. I don’t use route builder and didn’t really like the fitness analysis metric they created.

My favorite feature is the ability to compare my performance on segments. But the reason I won’t pay strava is not the cost, it’s because there is a lack of innovation in my opinion.

I want Strava to be an alternative to my Wahoo or Garmin device for when I do a run or nonbike activity. I did a run today for a fundraiser/virtual competition. Normally I would have used the Strava app but wanted to use my TickrX to get HR data, so I used the Wahoo app on my phone. Something didn’t work right and my run is nonexistent. It shows that I did 16.5 miles but it didn’t record properly and my segment times are nonexistent. I never had that problem using the Strava app.

I purchased the TickrX a few years ago to use for indoor training with an iPad but I also started to use it with my phone and the Stava app when I ran. It was nice because then I’d get the running metrics from the TickrX and also get a hrTSS score using trainingpeaks(free). I don’t run outside often so I don’t have a dedicated device for running. I really liked the Strava app for running, and when I needed it for cycling that one time, but once they cut off support for devices that made the app virtually worthless for me.

This is where they screwed up in my opinion. If they want to be a fitness app company, then be a fitness company and support connected devices. I should be able to use the Strava app with my TickrX or any other device that collects data not collected by the app. They took the easy way out by cutting off all support for connected devices rather than fixing the app.

They’re doing the same thing now by putting features behind a paywall. IMO they’re trying to take the easy way out. I’d love to support them but they don’t offer me anything worthwhile. I can still see if I got a PR on segments. I don’t care if I’m 500 out of 1200. I still get a TSS score using intervals.icu or using my free trainingpeaks account. Most importantly, I can’t use my TickrX with the app to record a run. Why should I support them when all they’ve done is remove features. Give me something spectacular and I’ll be more than willing to give something in return.

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Ok so I tried reading all 600 posts but admit I started to just scroll past alot of them. I have never used strava for any of its social media type benefits. I don’t follow anyone on strava and 100% of my rides are private.

I used it purely as an aggregation tool as it could pull together all of my cycling (TR and outdoor), running and swimming into one place.

Thats still all I want. In the interim while TR builds their run and swim integration can I just use Garmin Connect instead of strava for the integration?

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“This Week” would start on Monday. It’s the calendar week… Not the past seven days. So it wouldn’t show your ride from Sunday.

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That makes sense, nice thinking. Went to check that out, though, and now the ‘This Month’ doesn’t even show my result. I guess my point is broadly, this is just reminiscent of their support forums and the myriad of seemingly forever unanswered feature requests and bug fixes. Oh well, I hope the cash infusion helps them sort it, at least.
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is your effort public? Only public rides will appear on the Leaderboard. That change was made several months ago.

Yeah, and I can see it in the All Time (after clicking back like 40 pages, ha). Just something abut the filter sort that’s breaking.

Note that this also applies to the “following” leaderboard. Activities that are set to Followers privacy will not show up on the “following” leaderboard for you and/or your followers.

I found this out when I changed all my past activities from Everyone to Followers privacy, which had the (somewhat unintended) effect of removing me from the above leaderboards.

yes, Everyone = Public and on the leaderboard. Any other setting and you won’t be on the leaderboard. That change was made earlier this year IIRC.

Like someone else said, it’s the calendar week (Monday - Sunday) so your sunday ride was last week. So if you check on a Monday then “this week” and “today” will be the same thing.

For the routes…I just tried it and it worked as expected. Do you have an really intrusive pop-up blocker running? Because when you press the “Save” button on the top right it has a small pop-up to name the route, set to private, etc.

Yeah, I got it now, after the fact. I just find it odd that an activity has to be open to everyone in order to show up on leaderboards for followers. This smells of a technical challenge that Strava didn’t want to address in their backend/db/processing. Oh well, it is what it is.

Yeah, my fault there, but then the This Month still doesn’t show anything. Honestly, it’s not a huge deal to me, more just musing.

Yes popup blocker on one, but it wasn’t working on the other without either.
I’ll just give it a couple days. Maybe I got unlucky and hit it when they were having issues or something. Happy to know that it’s not widespread.

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I noticed that earlier this year, not sure exactly when the change was made.

Maybe as early as Sept 2019:

Or in January 2020 as per the date on this support article:

and follow-on article in March 2020:

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Yeah I saw your second video with the month filter. You are definitely experience some bugs there. But yeah I can’t say I’ve seen anything like that so far.

I’d be interested in understanding this as well, the information has always been valuable. @dcrainmaker

One option:

He’s been having a go at arguments no one has been making the entire thread, it’s quite strange.