SuperSix Evo? Cannondale Quality? What else?

My LBS would do that for me, so I only eavesdropped on what the technicians were discussion. I am - unfortunately - no expert in mechanics yet. Working on that, I hate the dependence on my LBS.

Anyway, no not straight. You need an adapter of some sorts, that’s what I know for sure.

But I can tell you how much they would charge me in their offering. I am not sure how expensive FSA power box is in my country (Netherlands), but they would charge me 699 euros to swap the default crank set for the power box. They would give me a discount of 250 euros as they hold the new unused crank that they hold back and reuse or resell.

Ugh, le sigh. I really dig the EF bikes but everything else has been, meh.

€699 would really alter the budget to different brands though. Or even a custom build so you’re not swapping parts from the get go.

Regardless of how pretty a bike was changing so much so quickly would suggest it’s not the right one.

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I have a new super six bro hi mod 2021 and have done around 628km as record by the built in sensor, and during this time had no issue with noise the only problem is a broken tooth on the big chain ring… not sure how. Bike is now back with the shop waiting a warranty replacement and they also say they need a new tool to be able to the work!!! They say it will be five days for the parts, I am as the one they have in stock has the wrong size cranks? Are the cranks not able to be swap from the current set up…

But on the short time I have used it no issues had to swap the saddle.

If you dig long enough you will find stories about creaking bb for almost any bike. :sweat_smile: You will get best value shopping around a lot and then pouncing quickly. Just keep an eye on geometry and then search the Internet!

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I don’t know what year my bike is, I am guessing around 2016. I can find pictures of frames that look similar, but nothing that matches totally, including paint, so just a guess.

I have over 20,000 miles on it in year round Southern California riding*, been a damn good bike. Only changes I made was some carbon bars a friend gave me (damaged, I assumed the risk), the Save 2 seat post from my XC bike, and that’s it. Same HiMod frame, Mavic Cosmic wheels, etc. About to put on new chainrings (Absolute Black oval), chains, and cassette.

*mostly dry, some extreme heat, and rare rain. Have had the BB/hubs fully submerged in flood water multiple times

If you have bb30a perhaps… (which is on the SuperSix if I’m correct). BB30a is notorious for issues. Press fit generally is linked to creaking, but BB30a is a category in its own. There is a reason why Specialized went back to threaded BBs with their Tarmac SL7 and the Aethos.

By comparison, I have a 2008 Ultegra SL groupset since 2008 (about 13-14 years now). Never head any creaking (but I took good care of it). I believe its SM-BBR60.

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Ouch! I hope you didn’t injure yourself. How did it happen exactly? Were you out of the saddle or something?

have only ridden an older supersix evo 2014 i think and it felt so fast and fun to ride.

I was on a 2012 Cannondale and tried to upgrade last year. There was no stock locally and a really long wait to import. I looked at a few others and went with the Focus Izalco Max 9.8. Great bike and great value. I think you will find that no matter what you get… bikes have changed a lot and any quality bike is going to feel fantastic ! Enjoy

I had the Cannondale supersix Evo 105 from 2016 and I have the current newer one now. I had the BB creak on the old one, and used a Praxis works adapter to change it to a hollogram standard, and had zero issues after that. The current bike I’ve had a year, and haven’t modified yet, except for putting a smaller inner ring on, so I’m running 52/34. No major issues with bike, but I am worried that the headset bearings aren’t particularly well protected, so may need an early change. Other than that, it seems we’ll put together.

It’s a lovely ride, as was the old supersix evo. I’ve swapped out the stock fulcrum wheels for some Hunt ones, and at some point I’ll change up the handlebars and seat post. I’ve added a Stages power meter, and in general couldn’t be happier. No creating from the BB yet!

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Not sure how it happened but the bike has gone back to the shop Tredz who dealt with it very well
And they have given me a full refund, would use them again very good customer service

I would avoid Cannondale. Had the exact same issue as others here and on the SuperSix Evo Facebook group: My seat post split in two while riding. Thankfully not injured! Paid for a replacement alloy seat post but now I get a lot of scary creaking. Visited dealership twice already, they changed a plastic wedge on the seatpost as directed by Cannondale, the creaking only worsened. 43 days without a solution. Really disappointed.

Martin would you mind letting me know what wheels you run on the supersix. I also have a 2015 hi mod but the clearance at the chain stays is really poor so not sure what deep sections it would take. I appreciate it will come down to rim width as opposed to depth but hoping if you have found something then it might work for me as well.
Thanks

Has anyone else here heard murmurs of a 2022 refresh for the Evo?

One of my riding buddies was saying a LBS employee he spoke with was suggesting he thought they were going to merge the SuperSix and the SystemSix and release it this summer… but I’m a little skeptical of that given they’re already selling everything as fast as they can with the current supply chain situation and the current SuperSix will only be 3 years old in June.

Given yet more 'Dale horror stories on the group ride this weekend, I wouldn’t touch one. There are good reasons why 3 of the previous 5 (iirc) local stockists now don’t/won’t sell them.

It’s not that they break per se, it’s their (apparent) almost total refusal to accept anything is a legitimate warranty issue. Trek and Spesh may have faults but (in my experience and those I know) 9 times out of 10 they sort it, and tend to give the customer the benefit of the doubt. Cannondale usually/very often move to dismiss or blame the customer.

Given that these bikes are now very much premium/luxury products, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect the kind of aftersales standards that seem more common in other industries.

I have to say my experience and those I’ve known with similar issues have been positive with Cannondale warranties in the UK. Not had the impression they were pushing back at all in terms of sending a new frame, even if it’s “we wouldn’t normally do this but this time ok”…

Whether it’s localised or not I can’t say, but I can give 3 recent examples:

  1. Member of the local club. Bought a Supersix online. Chainstay cracked after c. 6 months. The crack was on the inside of the chainstay and the rest of the bike was unmarked. Cannondale: ‘crash damage’. After a lot of hassle/arguing, he got a new frame at cost.
  2. Frame in LBS - I think a Synapse but not 100%. Frameset bought from LBS which customer built up. Front shifting never great; customer assumed his own ineptitude, so took it to LBS, who eventually ascertained that braze on wasn’t quite straight. Cannondale first refused to accept there was a problem, then suggested the customer must have damaged it. I don’t know the final outcome.
  3. Related by LBS. Customer bought a SystemSix from them. Knew there were potential issues with certain smart trainers, so asked Cannondale for clarification. He followed their instructions to the letter, but got a cracked rear dropout. Cannondale argued user error.

Now, I’d be happy to believe there was user error in any 1 of these cases. But for all 3 to be dismissed makes me more cynical/suspicious. Indeed, the LBS concerned dropped them as they felt they were a) losing a lot of customer goodwill (and facing 1 small claims court case, I believe) and b) spending too much time on long, drawn-out warranty battles.

Anyway, it’s all anecdata, n=1, etc. But purely personally I wouldn’t spend my own money on one. It’s a shame as I really toyed with the idea of a SystemSix (and there was a NOS one sitting in the LBS for quite a while, highly unusually in the current supply situation).

i’ve had the complete opposite experience. Not sure if it is the LBS or the regional distributor that is being the hardass on this one.

Perhaps I am lucky but I have a caad 12 a supersix evo himod both from 2017. In all this time I replace the BB bearings only once on each bike. The SSevo the bearing just wear out sounding like popcorn the new ones were installed with loctite and have been great so far. The Caad 12 was creaking two years back and I found out that problem where the cable cuts the plastic part under the BB and starts eating away the spindle. Replace with the new part Cannondale produced to solve this problem and reinstalled with new bearings, no problems since then. Both bikes have more than 20,000km and both are a lot of fun to ride, the handling is amazing and they are light. Put them 60mm wheels and they fly. I prefer the SSevo but it’s marginal. I use the Caad12 a lot on the trainer in the winter without any problems to the frame.

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