But this is a criminal standard; it doesn’t even apply in civil cases.
This isn’t a court of law. My opinion is a significant portion of the peloton is juicing pretty hard, and the problem has accelerated over the past 18 months.
There are lots of data points why I think this and and idealistic pontificating isn’t going to change my mind or keep me from voiving my opinion.
What “cases”? Nobody is on trial, I’m just talking about being a rational human being and not a paranoid one who thinks anyone who does better than ___ must be cheating to get there. There’s people who put up better numbers than me at work, my first thought isn’t “yea and Wells Fargo used to open all kinds of fake accounts too”. Come on…
Question what you want, don’t be a sheep, but don’t assume guilt without proof is all I’m saying.
Precisely what I’m doing given the data at hand
For me, the biggest problem with doping in cycling is a problem it shares with other sencond-tier sports like track & field, marathon, XC skiing, etc…: selective enforcement introduces all sorts of distortions you don’t see in sports with stronger athlete rights.
too bad there’s no pill that helps you stay on the bike.
#RogNeedsit
I would expect modern day riders to do better than those even from a decade or two ago: better equipment (gearing specifically), better training and nutrition thanks to advances in science.
Current riders, not from a decade ago.
This is a relevant issue.
This is indeed irritating and sad
What evidence? That someone is faster than someone else?
All I’ve seen are opinions and borderline hyperbole
Interesting that there is such a small margin/gap from 2nd GC to 10th GC. Other than Pog, top 10 GC are very close.
Has Pog ever had a head to head with Ganna in a flat TT? Everyone he crushed in this year’s TT is known as a specialist, bit they were injured or sub optimal (surgery, for example).
Last year’s TT was just stupid fast, but it was a tale of two routes with the flat and climb.
The 2015 CIRC “Truth & Reconciliation” report found that from 1998-2013 there were exactly four TdF winners who weren’t associated with substantiated doping findings: Sastre, Evans, Wiggins, and Froome. Depending on your opinion of whether a sophisticated, long-term abuse of the TUE process constitutes “doping” you might shrink that to two winners. And those were amazing chaotic TdFs.
Whether Pogacar is doping or not, I think that’s why there’s disappointment when, year after year, some “once in a generation talent” comes to the top and destroys everyone. For some folks, that’s what they want to see. For others it ruins the race.
As far as “benefit of the doubt” goes, when you go to Disneyworld, there’s always a chance that Mickey is, in fact, a giant talking mouse and not, like every single other time, a college student in a mouse suit, but this kind of induction is how humans stay sane.
Edit: I promise, no more on the matter–at least until next year. Doping talk is in poor taste in a general race forum.
It really is comical how this conversation has happened over and over for decades. Next up, a positive test followed by some excuse for why someone was positive even though they TOTALLY didn’t dope, followed by an admission of guilt, followed by “well, it still doesn’t matter because everyone was doing it anyway”.
The first week of this year’s TdF was amazing. Someone on Twitter suggested they just jump to the Champs d’Elysees after yesterday’s stage and declare it the greatest one-week race in history.
Nairo has to drop Higuita at some point……if they are too close in a sprint situation Higuita wins all day.
Higuita is making me eat my words about declaring him a GICTA.
Nairo is a GICTA for GC but I have to learn to appreciate his new racing role as Stage hunter only.
you must have misread - it said what is humanly possible for a CLEAN athlete.
That was Daniel Friebe, one of the hosts on The Cycling Podcast and a well-respected journalist of the sport.
Lol your trolling right?