Tour de France 2021! (spoilers)

HTC did a great job leading out Cavendish today!
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I’m an Alaphillipe and DQS fan, but didn’t it almost seem like things slowed down when he went to the front and then sped back up once he pulled off? Was it just my eyes tricking me?

heh, he was only up there for like 5 seconds it seemed and I think that’s when some a couple other teams kind of collapsed onto the DQS train and it looked kind of argy bargy there for a second. He probably wasn’t used to that and said “screw this” and dropped out of there.

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The fact that the stage doesn’t end at the 2nd summit of Ventoux is criminal, change my mind.
(Both in terms of excitement and mystique as well as rider safety)

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100% agree. In fact, it could be quite dangerous as a result. I’m thinking of Martin/Porte.

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don’t forget Thomas

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Thought UCI banned it but WADA wouldn’t do it…yet. Global DRO shows Not Prohibited for a US cyclist still at least.

Fairly low rate of use by this article although cyclists are a high percent of many athletes.

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It was very clearly his last match and that match didn’t have much left in it. More important was how hard he drilled it in the cross winds to keep the pace up. That was invaluable imo.

Also, can we just give Morkov some huge kudos? Seems nearly impossible to lose if you’re on his wheel in the last 300 meters. I’d love to see a statistic of how high his sprinters place after he drops them off. I bet it’s outrageous.

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It also shows up in drinking water in places with higher incidences of opoid use / abuse:
https://cen.acs.org/environment/water/opioids-down-drain-scientists-tracking/97/i16

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I wouldn’t doubt that it’s showing up like that. I’d imagine there’s a threshold like a bunch of drugs.

well nanogram levels in drinking water is a bit low to be used as excuse, if you´d get caught with miligram levels in your blood. :man_shrugging:

If we want to speculate what was in his bottle (which kinda starts to belong into the other thread) I´m wondering if his team is one of the teams using ketones. (Which are not banned)

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As an editor covering the B2B industry, pharmaceuticals in wastewater is becoming a growing trend. This is due not only to more ingestion from folks and therefore release into sewers through urine and stool, but also from folks flushing pharmaceuticals down the toilet. Studies of effluent in sewers and of drinking water sources can also help track the spread of disease. In fact, study of sewage helped to find new coronavirus outbreaks last year during the pandemic.

The water and wastewater industry is an incredibly fascinating one, and the folks who work in it do not get enough credit for the shit they put up with (pun intended) nor do they get enough credit for how much they protect the environment on a daily basis, regardless of holidays.

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I think you’re right in terms of noticing the two best sprinters in the world right now not being there (Bennet and Ewan), and as above the speed of the race/climbers means that the climbing stages are brutal for the sprinters and the cut-off.

There’s still world class sprinters in the race, and Cav beat Merlier already.

I think you create your own luck, and Cav and DQS are riding a positive wave right now. I think the field is still fast and motivated though.

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He doesn’t pick who makes it to the finish line. Winning sprints at the tour is winning sprints at the tour. Period.

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He must be doping that’s the only real explanation, not a combination of skill and luck of the competition

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I didn’t mean to come off as someone would use that as an excuse, just that I would guess they’d (UCI, WADA, etc.) have some threshold in case a low level did show up for someone. threshold vs mg could certainly be a bit of a difference…bigger discrepancy when the pills are 50-300 mg doses.

Ketones for a sprinter doesn’t make any sense.

Strange bottle conversation can be continued here: https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/tour-de-france-2021-speculation-and-gossip

Not to be pedantic, but Merlier was the leadout man for Philpsen when Cav won his first stage. When Merlier was the designated sprinter for Alpecin, he won the stage.

I’m just talking about the quality of the field. Cav finished in front of Merlier.

Alpecin playing the happy families, role sharing game and fluffing their order is on them.

But if Merlier was not trying to win the stage, it isn’t much of a comparison.

I could also say Merlier finished ahead of Cav on Stage 3…but Cav wasn’t there because of mechanical issues, so again not much of a comparison.