TrainingPeaks Virtual - [formerly, "Should TrainerRoad link up with IndieVelo"]

TPV exports to Garmin Connect when you complete a workout.

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Could have sworn to you that Garmin Connect was not one of the options when I set that up on my Android tablet a few days ago. Will double-check!!

Just downloaded TPV to another tablet and set it up. Garmin Connect does show as one of the options for connected accounts, but it’s just a placeholder. If you click on it, you get:

“Garmin are not currently accepting new connections to automatically upload FIT files to Garmin Connect. You can however manually upload your FIT files from the following folder…”

No cigar, and no joy. :sob:

Since TrainingPeaks already has that connection open, we’ll have to wait for them to set it up.

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At least for me, it runs fine on both my M1 Mac mini and M1 MacBook Pro. Maybe delete it completely and reinstall it?

I’m getting 60fps

Haha I never tried clicking it. When I click it (on PC) I just get this:

just a pity it doesnt work on the Apple TV

It doesnt. You click on connect and it says Garmin is not accepting any new connections.

It syncs to Strava, intervals and TP. So if you have them linked to Garmin there might be a back door way to synch?

To be clear, TrainingPeaks do not already have that connection open. Garmin has made a commercial decision not to allow activities from third party devices / platforms to be accepted and considered for training load analysis. This is to force you in to their ecosystem. Use Hammerhead? No training load. Use wahoo? No training load. If they allowed TrainingPeaks activities, that would open it up to any device that can sync to TrainingPeaks, which is pretty much all of them.

Their official line is that they can’t ensure the integrity of the fit files and it could screw up the metrics, but that of course is BS. If you change the device to a Garmin one using fitfiletools, it works 100% of the time.

Garmin opened up the connection to Zwift and TrainerRoad, because these platforms were in no way competition, and did not add a benefit for competing devices. Based on this, it is possible that they could open up a sync directly from TPV (rather than from TP), but I wouldn’t hold my breath, and the issue is very much on the Garmin side not on the TPV one.

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Yes. . No activities in.
Only out to third parties.

Into Garmin
They allow in…

  • training (uncompleted workouts to do on your Garmin device)
  • courses

Out

  • completed activities
  • health stats

Nope. I’ve installed and uninstalled twice on both devices. :cry:

They stopped accepting inbound training platform applications many years ago, roughly a bit after the Tacx acquisition (as they half-heartedly want you to us the Tacx App). A number of other training platforms have requested access since.

The only one they’d accept these days, if requested, would be Peloton (since the benefit to Garmin far outweighs the handful of people that might be overlap). But doesn’t sound like Peloton is interested in that.

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Running on my iPad Pro and MacBook Air without a hitch…curious.

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Very weird. As a paying member, this sucks.

Have you contacted TPV support for help?

Do you think that’ll ever change? I don’t understand why they wouldn’t want Garmin Connect to be a social and fitness data hub the way Strava is today, I would have imagined that would drive more people into the Garmin ecosystem than locking them out.

I think they tried and realized it was almost impossible. The reality is that social media platforms thrive when they have the masses and it is exceedingly difficult to pull people away with a “me too” product.

So they have closed their system in an attempt to keep people locked within their ecosystem and drive future product sales.

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Yep. Standing by.

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Ever is a long time.

But I don’t think it’ll change till they give up on the Tacx Training App.

It sounds like at present it’s basically holding it’s own in terms of revenue and covering the costs and such. So, I guess they’re kinda like ‘shrug’, keep it.

That said, I think there’s a lost opportunity cost to increase integration with the FulGaz/Rouvy/etc of the world and drive better integration on Garmin training data/wearables. They make far more money selling a Fenix 8, than years of the Tacx app.

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My consumer response to walled garden purveyors is :fu: and vote with my wallet by directing my money elsewhere wherever practicable…

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Hope you get a satisfactory resolution!

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