I did my ramp test 6 days prior.
Tss and .if both use NP for the calculation with a ride that hilly the numbers get skewed. NP and avg power were 70w difference
For a highly variable workout, NP can be much higher than average power , where for a very steady workout, NP and average power are equivalent or very close together. A relatively high NP is showing that the workout had a lot of variation, and was harder physiologically than what average power may reveal.
I know what np, tss and avg power are and I donât know why youâre bolding random words. Iâm still disputing you did 0.91 IF for 5hrs and 20min, regardless of how variable it was.
For some perspective, âDisasterâ is a highly variable TR ride and is 0.79 IF.
To win or be competitive at Paris Roubaix, a pro will be around 0.85 over the same time frame. You went 5% harder, in your first 2.5hr ride in half a year.
Like I said, something is wrong. Ramp test is way low, or your power meter is broken.
Could be difference between in door hammer h2 and quarq power that is only ridden outside?
Last I checked they were within 10w on the trainer 2 months ago
Maybe? Iâd start checking things against each other for sure, and maybe do another ramp test with power match⌠Or do a 8/20min test outside.
If youâre regularly doing over 0.8 IF on rides for multiple hoursâŚyouâd know for sure. Thatâs legit all out race effort, imho, and probably isnât going to be done in conjunction with other hard training rides within a couple days.
Iâll throw the bikes on the trainer this week and see if power-meters are off.
Most of my outdoor rides have IF of .8 when I went back And looked at the data. I had always functioned within these numbers
âLess than 0.75 recovery ridesâ⌠
Where did you get this info? 0.75 is the upper limit of Z2 AKA endurance. Recovery rides are typically Z1, or sub 0.55.
Thatâs from training peaks
Wow, that makes absolutely no sense to me.
Also, IF doesnât take into account ride duration. So a 4 hour steady Z2 endurance ride can have an IF of 0.7. That is by no means a recovery ride.
Mind = blown
I do need to check my power meters off of each other for consistency as I want 300w to be 300w on all 3 bikes.
But why is trainingpeaks articles saying this?
Nice Kanzo, Sir.
Thank you sir.
I tried to ride gravel wed But the trails were still frozen over so I hope to get out in the next couple weeks and break her in
My gravel race yesterday (only the 5th outdoor ride Iâve done this year) with an IF of .88 for well over 4hrs.
Iâm due for a ramp test so Iâm sure my still noob, off the couch gains are beyond the 226FTP from my last test in Jan and skewing the IF stats some.
Max cadence was perhaps a tad optimistic LOL
AlsoâŚNew Wheels Day yesterday. Post race pic of the new Spinergy GX wheels. $599 and sub 1500gr with 24mm internal. They took at least a pound off the stock wheels on my Diverge (which are known to be heavy boat anchors). My parts scale broke a couple weeks ago or Iâd have an exact number.
Great job. Way to put in work. Iâm jelly your already racing.
Thatâs awesome you can keep stuff inside the frame. How did you like the tires? What was the final weight of the bike?
The benefit of living in the Deep South, there is no real off season and if anything everything is inverted like cross season almost. Thereâs even a 4 race series in Mississippi that goes every two weeks starting the beginning of January through the end of February. Southeast Gravel series (6 events) is mostly spring and then fall starting in 2 weeks. I lived in Virginia just outside of DC for most of my life, so I miss snow occasionally but the ability to train outdoors year round is a pretty awesome trade offâŚmy B group road ride has a 50 degree start time, as in the ride starts when the forecast says it will be 50 or warmer. 9AM. 11AM. Whatever it takes for the softies to stay warm LOL.
Share your TR profile. If youâre doing most of your outdoor rides over .8 IF, your rides are longer than 60-90 minutes and youâre not completely burnt out then your data/power is wrong OR youâre an alien and (as jonathan says) you should be studied by the scientific community so we can all see what youâre doing and become equally powerful.
Sorry, it just doesnât add up. Since this forum is on a DJ kick, hereâs him going over his power data from a top 5 in BWR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri8mtN5O-0o&ab_channel=DylanJohnson Thatâs a 0.77 IF in 6 hours, in a legit race that he tapered for as an A event against some of the top guyâs in the country. If he was capable of doing 0.85 in 5hrs, he would have done it and won easily.
Hereâs Ted King (dirty kanza aka unbound winner multiple times, iirc) power data from a different BWR. https://youtu.be/3gebox-sdQ0 Thatâs 280 avg and 340 np for 6hrs, and I believe his FTP is right around 420. That would make the IF 0.81 for that race.
Hereâs the winner of Paris-Roubaix from a few years back. 350w NP, 401 TSS and IF of 0.83 in a little under 6hrs. Power Analysis: Mathew Hayman's Victory at Paris-Roubaix | TrainingPeaks
Doing 90% NP of your FTP for 5hrs doesnât really happen. @Motard you need to do a new ramp test or outside FTP test, youâve probably seen significant gains.
That thing from training peaks or wherever is bogus. No one recovers at 0.75.
(Obviously running tubeless) I would like the Pathfinder Pros more in 42mm vs these stock 38âs. Personally, I like volume and the slightly lower pressures that come with that. They roll fast on pavement for sure, but the carcass is a bit stiff, so use those cool air pressure gauge stem things you got a while back to dial in your pressures on yoursâŚtheyâre very sensitive to even 1-2 PSI it seems. A week ago I ran them at 37/40 in the colder and wetter conditions and they felt like rocks at times, yesterday I ran 35/38 and they were much better. Enough side grip when needed in soft or wet dirt and sand, but fast on hard pack and tarmac. Iâm going to get a set of 42âs to use as my âdaily driverâ tires, then get the Rene Herse Hurricane Ride Endurance Plus to use for the 200.
The SWAT storage is such a silly gimmick until you use it. As an ex roadie that wouldnât have been caught dead with a saddle bag, itâs just awesome and every carbon bike should come with a version of it. I use almost 2/3 of the down tube internal for tools, tubes, etc for a race/longer ride.
With the new wheels itâs right at 20lbs for a size 61âŚno lights or computer.
