Handmade frames are overrated.
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In that same vein - tubing specs for steel bikes are important. There are way too many neophyte custom builders working with steel who read one Richard Sachs article from the 1980s and decided they could just pick whatever tubing and not disclose the wall thickness or butting profile.
Yeah Sachs or Nobilette or Kirk can mix and match and make a great frame. Guy/Gal who is barely on their 10th frame? I want to know what you’re using and why.
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I had no idea other people weren’t fond of PLP. Hard to put my finger on it, but something just rubs me the wrong way about his channel. I had to tell youtube to stop recommending it after I watched him say he was gonna ride 100 miles on this video and he just gave up 2/3rds of the way through? I can’t remember the details exactly but it just seemed like someone without a ton of skill or grit on the bike. Maybe I got the wrong impression though.
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I mean he’s into the party pace and bikepacking biking. More prioritizing being on the bike for pure enjoyment rather than performance or grit. Not that those type of cyclists can’t have grit but I can totally see the attitude of just stopping when you’re not enjoying the ride anymore rather than grit your way through it
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Yet almost all frames are actually handmade.
Joe
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Back in my day we just called it stretching! LOL.
Yeah I guess I just don’t find that compelling enough to watch on YouTube. I did go back and peruse the channel history to refresh my memory and he’s obviously an experienced cyclist. I’m really surprised after practically living on his bike for several years that he struggled with DK200, I would think someone who tours that much would have no problem with the longer distances.
Anyway, leaving this topic now because I’m not trying to jump all over PLP. Everyone can ride their bike how they desire.
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I’ve got a soft spot in my heart for Vegan Cyclist. He kind of acknowledges that he’s a bit of a tool, but it’s hard to hate on ‘your boy.’ Just watched his UnboundXL video. As a piece of content, it’s really, really well done (footage and editing).
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His content has gotten really good over the years. The Impossible Ride series he’s doing with Jeremiah Bishop is phenomenal.
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There’s the unpopular opinion that finally annoyed me 
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Mission accomplished.
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Yeah, I know a lot of factories in Taiwan are still hand making frames, so I dunno why the folks at the handmade festival are using that term to differentiate their stuff?. I know many commercial metal bikes are hand-welding, but these robots are probably really good at welding and could do a better job than I could with the TIG right now. I worked as a brazer making heat exchangers, and I thought about going into framebuilding but I couldn’t handle dealing with picky cyclists all day everyday. I became an ironworker/welder instead. I still ride carbon bikes though, and those are definitely hand made.
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Custom frames are like the gluten free diet of bike production.
It’s a fantastic solution to a problem most people don’t have.
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I think his video quality is quite good from a scenery capturing and ride perspective, but I do find him kind of hilariously annoying. Seeing him photo bomb an interview with Isabel King (on Delaney’s channel?) was a classic.
Also, “I’m blind in my left eye right now because of a concussion, but that’s OK. I’m used to it - your boy used to do MMA” or whatever is easily the most memorable line on cycling Youtube I’ve heard.
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The current recipe thread is why so many people don’t like cyclists; someone makes a joke and every cyclist has to over-analyze it, explain why the OP is wrong and argue their mundane opinion 
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Right? I thought it was a pretty good analogy for a problem that’s brought up again and again here and on the podcast and lot of places. But it’s not a perfect model for all of training so we must correct it!
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Same reasons restaurants all advertise “Homemade pie.” Words are meaningless 
Ha I was thinking the same thing. The forum is almost becoming painful to visit because it’s just a bunch of arguing about why someone is wrong. The Keegan posts are the same. Nobody can be happy he’s a good bike racer because he’s not “world tour” or from Europe I guess. Can’t we just let the dude be good and dominate how he wants?
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Mechanical shifting sucks
Come at me now 
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This reminds me of mine: the vast vast majority of people who claim that electronic is “far superior” to mechanical shifting had poorly setup mech setups. 
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