interesting
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Unless they filter the mud and only let fine particles get thru, and then holds them there
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Yeah that’s decidedly not ideal. I’m picking there’s a reason no one has come up with it as a marketing idea.
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Everything old is new again.
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Haha, this is the MTB equivalent of seeing cargo pants and baggy jeans being the cool thing again 
Also, check out that for a “flip switch” that’s like 5-10cm difference in shock mounts (is that what that is for)
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Headset routing? I don’t see the rear brake hose entering the frame.
Fork has the brain logo
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Ah good catch!
I was looking at the rear and don’t see any of the system there, it is hard to tell at this point.
I’d say juries still out as to whether or not its better, no?
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Better in their mind. I doubt they set out to build a worse SuperCal.
I really like the look of the way they’ve done it, but it remains to be seen what it’s like. I think it looks lighter than the SuperCal but who knows.
Shall we move this discussion to the XC bike and equipment thread @mcneese.chad ?
I think it would be neat if it used a setup like an Arc 8
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I am open to what you all want to do with separate vs merge. That thread is a great catch all with some deep discussion on a the full range of XC stuff.
These bike specific ones work, but inevitably get crosspollination when comparisons to other bikes happen. As such, sticking with the one mega-thread might make sense, but we can do what you all think is best here.
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I personally think leaving this thread live until we actually “know” what the bike is and then when its finally out in full print and comparisons start to happen maybe it gets moved then?
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I get what you mean, but we end up with two identical discussions in two places that might be more productive if everyone sees the same posts.
Just my 2c of course.
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Holy Cow I didnt even know that the other thread had this image and everything already. I thought it was just talking about already released product not speculation.
I would say merge at this point as you said because there is already so much information in there.
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OK, merge complete. All in one per the above.
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I was curious about the geometry of another recently leaked/released bike so I used the oh-so-fancy powerpoint to come up with some rough angles. Assuming the angles arent too far off, the geometry is quite progessive
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That’s a good looking bike.
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For anyone interested in new bars, there’s a couple of varieties of Canyon bars on sale at the moment.
Pretty impressive weights for what they are.