I hate to say it like this, but what am I looking at?
Do you have the original article, what is the difference between the best ranking and the worse ranking?
I would say thats part of the game however, you are paying half of the price of the marketed brand without exactly knowing. It could be a similar shape and be .01 watt slower or it could be 3 watt slower. The CN manufactured products at least show the dimensions of their rims and dont make any (true or false claims).
For all we know - they are the OEM manufacture of the western/marketed brand and they just ripped of the design.
If you are very curious about what would be the most aerodynamic wheel you should look at a 3-spoke wheel for aerodynamics and to save weight over a full disc (I kid). You however should check out the Syncros Capitals
The testing they perform claims all the other tested wheels are within 2-2.5W of each other but the Capital is 1.19W faster than the closest competitor and 3.73W faster than the slowest tested wheel (Zipp 454NSW). At the end of the day is $4100USD worth it to be 2-4w faster than other wheels and if you flip it is 2-4w worth $1-1.5k USD more over a CN wheel for a marketed wheel brand (If it even is that much aero savings)?
This may not be everyoneâs delima (if resources are not limited) and I like to think a lot of people like to make the most logical choice (for their situation).
Here is the white paper. Itâs actually a pretty interesting read (more than a lot of marketing stuff that comes out) as they tested a number of different wheels (with varying depths and widths) and tested both 28mm and 30mm tires. So you can see how much watt loss you might get going wider, etc. I think the fact that their wheel didnât test the absolute fastest kind of makes me âbelieveâ the data a bit more
I highly recomment progress wheels. they are a spanish brand⌠and are simple amazing. they do graphene wheels incredible stiff and light.
for the 50/55 aero wheels they have an offering at 1375g so just 75g over your requirements.
they offer is also in tubular version for 1310g if you want.
if you opt for 38, you can have wheels for less than 1300g and they cost âonlyâ 1600 euros. and have two year crash replacement (one on purchase, one if you register them within two months.
sadly nobody has taken the time to test them. but i ride them i have done paris roubaix. strada biancaâŚ
TL/DR - We built a set of 60mm depth wheels that are estimated to be 1290g (+/- 20g)
I wanted to resurrect this thread as oldandfast inspired me with this thread for my new bike build I am doing.
I set out to build what I found to be a modern and wise wheel choice for road bikes. In doing this I have been working with Nextie over the last few months to create the wheelset I saw/found fit to achieve this.
What did we build?
We built a set of 60mm depth wheels that are estimated to be 1290g (+/- 20g).
The wheels are featuring all of the current tricks;
Tubless ready rim bed (no holes)
Carbon bladed spokes (4.5mm width)
20-spoke straight pull, this is achieved with a Nextie hub based on DT design
Hooked Rims
Modern aero rims (the shape may be familiar with a lot of people)
UPDATE 1/23/25- Competitive MSRP of $1305 plus shipping.
To achieve this feat - the rims must be UD and Free coating (no paint, natural carbon) and they can quality control the rim to an estimated 450g each and still keep quality control proper for testing.
These wheels are on order, I should have them in about 4-weeks and will gladly share with the group but I was just so excited about the project. I plan to pair them with 30mm tires.
Do the Nextie rims arrive assembled - just needing rotors and a cassette? Looking for a reasonably priced set of road wheels for my gravel bike. Ordered the cassette last night.
@Power13 Nextie got back to me - they are looking to sell a wheelset of this nature at a competitive MSRP of $1,305 plus shipping for the 60mm depth wheelset explained above.
To me - that is a stellar price if they do in fact come out to be what is discussed (which I have extreme confidence that they will).
I recommended they name the wheel series âAlpha Aeroâ and they should be able to release this in other rim depths of; 30mm, 35mm, 40mm, 45mm, and 50mm which may help aid in depth and weight others are trying to achieve.
Iâm sure Ican wheels would love for Nextie to simply copy their nomenclatureâŚ
Furthermore, youâre not getting anything that Nextie hasnât offered for months now⌠Theyâre named the CGX series, and theyâre found in the âGravelâ section of their site. The exact build youâve listed shows as $1244 USD. And surprise, theyâre available in the depths you listed⌠Iâm not being negative about the product, but critical of your presentation as if you developed something revolutionary in partnership with Nextie, which youâre then trying to nameâŚ
I wasnât aware that ICAN offered an âalphaâ option, as Iâm not up to date with their offerings. The recommendation for the âalpha aeroâ was based on Nextie offering an âalphaâ MTB wheelset last summer, which I own. I was simply trying to align with that. At the end of the day, I really donât care what they name it but was trying to help them organize a little more with the offerings.
Thank you for bringing up the CGX line, but some of the information provided isnât entirely accurate. While the CGX and the wheelset mentioned above are similar, they are not the same and im not sure where your pricing is from. Here are the differences:
The NXT60CGX:
480g rim
Available only in 24-hole
The lightest CGX option in a 60mm depth would have been with DT180 hubs, NXTS03 spokes (aero spokes), and the NXT60CGX rim. This wheelset did not meet my goal of going under 1300g (the lightest would be 1380g for 60mm depth) and was very expensive ($1,864 + Shipping).
The currently unnamed rims:
450g rim
Made with 20-hole
There were additional challenges that took weeks of discussion with Nextie to resolve:
I was not satisfied with the NXTS03 spokes. After reviewing many different spoke options with Nextie, I finally settled on the ones in the photos, which are not currently offered.
The 20-hole hub is new and not well-known at this point. It is still not available on the website.
Working with Nextie to find a rim profile that can be safely lightened and offered (having to ask them about many offerings).
I invested a lot of time and provided extensive feedback, more than I probably should have. I didnât need to share this information on the forum, but my passion drove me to do so. I never claimed to have developed this; I worked with them to achieve a wheelset that met my needs and, I believe, the needs of many others as well.
I am sorry if this came across in a way that did not settle with you, but I hope you understand I am pushing them to release something special.
Great information! This build looks fantastic. I shied away from their carbon spokes on my road wheelset, but if they had been available I would have probably gone this direction.
Any input on if these would be appropriately strong for gravel riding if a guy wanted a ~50mm deep setup?
Got it⌠thanks for the clarification. Seems like a few small tweaks to meet your needs.
Iâm a bit sensitive to the "shillingâ that is taking over most of our cycling spaces, and this sounds very much like youâre selling/promoting/advertising for Nextie. If not, cheers, but if there is more to the relationship, transparency is key.
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