Canyon Speedmax 2021

That’s not for the SLX, only the cf. Actually the same one on the older CF models

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Probably.
I am also disappointed. But mostly because I am not rich enough to buy ANY of those bikes.
I was expecting a rim brake version of the new frame.

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The new CF 8.0 Disc is 800€ more expensive and almost 1kg heavier than the CF 8.0 SL… If you out hydration, pedals, repair kit, etc. on it, this is a very heavy bike.
In central Europe many Ironman Courses have around 2000m climbing. I am not sure, if the new model is faster in real world use…

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Whether a more aerodynamic bike is faster than a lighter bike is faster depends more on speed (which is generally determined by gradient), than on total climbing.
For over 2000m of climbing, one might rather consider a road bike with extensions over a TT bike. At least I can climb much much better on a road bike…

The Cube aerium is 5800€, same price as CF 8 Disc Di2. BUT: The Speedmax comes with already very good wheels, whereas the aerium comes with a training wheelset, so you need to buy the 2k wheels extra. Also the cube aerium is not a disc bike…

https://www.cube.eu/2021/bikes/road/triathlon/aerium/cube-aerium-c68-sl-high-carbonnwhite/

That was my point.
The problem is: They moved the value proposition UP…WAY UP.
Its like saying a tesla model x is a value proposition over a Mercedes GLS.
Probably is, but still out of reach for many people.

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Me too :pensive:

I’m considering the entry level CF 7.0 with shimano 105. The question is: old rim-brake model (1kg lighter and more affordable), or new disk brake model for 700€ more.

If they have a lot of climbing, they also have a lot of descending, in which case those disk-brakes make a huge difference.

Sure. But all speedmax come with wheels. If he compares the non disk brake version it still a more value proposition… as far as a 5000 bike is value proposition…

in any case… It might be a “value” proposition… but to who? Those bikes are very expensive.

This is an excellent question. I would be willing skip the LBS for a chuck of saved money.
Now, it is not as good. Specially when one can buy a power meter for less than $500.

You are right, there is a disc version!
But it is the same price and the wheels are still 1,4k€ cheaper than the dt Swiss.
It’s similar to the new Aeroad. Price is higher but comparable brands are still more expensive if all the specs are compared.
Nevertheless I completely agree: The new speedmax rose the price bar even higher.
Imho the best value offers the “old” speedmax cf 8.0, still available.

A nice bike I can’t get in the US… Not that i can afford it anyways.

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Its always amusing to see people on the newest bike being lapped by people with older bikes during tri races.
Its not the bike dummy!

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Can you, really? I guess you can get A bike for the same price at the local bike shop, but I don’t think it will have anywhere near comparable specs.

As I said before, for my budget (3-4k), I don’t see many alternatives. Specialized has the Shiv Sport (which is awful) and Orbea has the new Ordu at a much higher entry price. Even if I ask for them to build one, the price will skyrocket.

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maybe in 2019 or early 2020 you could have found an old stock frame to build for a discount.
But its 2020 and there is a pandemic. Not much out there. I dont think things will change much next year.
For me, I hope to get an older canyon with rim brakes.

I would say at this point you are getting the best food and hydro integration. Who else is doing it better?

beautiful bikes. And I love Canyon’s stuff. But I’m happy they’re still going to offer rim brake models too. Wish they’d have gotten a refresh too.

I’m likely going to upgrade my Tri-bike in next 12-24 months and… discs just arent that important to me on a TT bike. Road, absolutely. I just don’t see the cost benefit on a race machine. To each their own.

I don’t need electronic shifting. And I still can’t find comparable specs at a similar price. Cervelo P-series, P-105 for instance: At first glance looks good, even cheaper than the CF 7.0 (3499 vs 3699). But then you look at the wheels, and you understand why the cervelo is cheaper. If you look at the Ultegra model, the same story and its 200€ more expensive than the CF 8.0 Disk.

And the rim brakes are still around. I think the best deals are still the old models. If one doesn’t need disk brakes, there’s no competition.

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Yeah, that must be the VAT differences between countries. I’m looking at the prices in the Portuguese website, must be higher than where you live.

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