This is for US market.
I was looking and the Orbea Ordu earlier.
The less expensive one was 5000 with mecanical and disk brakes.
When you go to electronic shifting you climb to 6000 and 500 for pm
For the same money, you can get a canyon with Zipp wheels, eTap and also a power meter.
(Wheels seem to be the same price point for both bikes).
To me I would probably chose Orbea at that price just because of LBS support.
Imagine youâve just exited the water, heart pounding out of your chest as you run into transition. While you were swimming, those dark clouds you saw 30 minutes ago are now directly overhead and it has been lightly raining for the last 10 minutes. You exit transition and hop on your bike, cold feet into the shoes, colder hands fumbling with the gears because you forgot to set it up correctly.
You spin up a hill directly from T1, and youâre feeling good as you just passed two people who beat you out of the water. As you crest the hill you see the descent in front of you. You saw it on your course recon but didnât think much of it. It was a dry sunny day when you drove it after all. But now itâs cold, your hands are still half numb, and the road is that perfect kind of slick you get on roads are just seeing their first rain in several weeks.
Down you go. You know you have a 90 degree turn at the bottom of this, so you keep your speed under control, squeezing the brakes occasionally. The grade steepens. You squeeze the brakes again, but now you realize you arenât slowing much. Your rim brakes + carbon clinchers + rain are about the worst combination you could ask for. You see the turn, but youâre not stopping. Youâve had your brakes squeezed back to the bars for over 10 seconds now and you just keep on scooting past your turn.
Finally you slow enough to turn around, hit your turn and off you go. Up ahead you see those two guys you passed earlier. They made the turn. Disc brakes road bikes with clip ons. They wonât see you again, as youâre about 100 yards back the rest of the race.
After the race is over, you hear the first guy out of the water crashed at that turn and ended his day. He couldnât slow enough, still tried to make the turn, and slid out.
You donât always need disc brakes, but if you do and donât have them, itâs a bad time.
Yea, those Dtswiss ARC wheels are AWEFUL in the rain. I did Eagleman last year. Itâs pancake flat and I though I was going to die on those 90degree turns.
back on topic, the new Speedmax looks pretty damn nice. But holy hell their nomenclature system sucksâŚit is almost impossible to tell one bike form another.
So I just talked to Canyon Customer Support through the website chat. According to what they told me, the Rim-Brake models are the old models, and they will not manufacture more of them. They are just selling the leftover stock. From now on they will only manufacture the Disk Brake models.
I was interested in the CF 8.0 or 8.0 SL in size S, but itâs not available right now, and according to this info probably will not get back in stock. This sucks
Even with the lesser wheels the Cervelo P-series is probably faster than the Canyon CF 7.0
Cervelo has done a little bit better job than Canyon in the aero category. The outgoing version of the Speedmax (the rim-brake integrated one) was about 12 watts slower than the P5 three in independent testing.
Get the Cervelo, sell the wheels for maybe $200 then turn around and buy some Hed Jets or something. Itâll end up being just a couple hundred more than the Canyon option but will be much faster if that is something that matters to you
I would love the CF 8.0 SL for 400⏠more, with DT Swiss 1400 wheels and Ultegra groupset, but according to their size chart, Iâm a S size, and they only have XS or M.
Do you think I could fit in a XS or an M at 175cm?
Edit: Iâve been looking at the dimensions and geometry of both the Speedmax CF and the setup I have in my road bike (with the aero bars), and I actually think the XS might be the right size for me.
Sorry to bump an old thread - you were right and I was wrong! UCI legal Speedmax Disc seen being raced by Marc Soler at the Tour de Romandie. Seems like a slimmed down version of the non-UCI bike.
While I think that bike is pretty aesthetically pleasing, it really doesnât look like a ânew UCI-rulesâ bike.
The frame looks very similar to the Shiv TT.