I have a noncoated ceramic speed bottom bracket. I live in Florida and have ridden in rain and wet conditions numerous times in the 1500 miles that I have ridden my current build. I have never serviced the bottom bracket and it is as smooth as the day I bought it. It is recommended to re-lube the OSPWs after riding in the rain.
[Edit] Ceramic speed says they only need to be serviced every 3-5k miles.
I looked a little further and it does say 600-1800 miles if wet and harsh conditions (I read that as UK winter). Even then it still seems early. Maybe whoever installed them didn’t grease that side as well, you used a pressure washer, or you got degreaser in there? If something was done wrong then maybe the bearings do need to be cleaned and re-greased in which case I would be worried debris and the ceramic bearing could damage the stainless steel race (unless yours is coated).
@DFH my experience with ceramic bearings in general is that they are glass cannons.
After a lot of futzing around with cheap and expensive options for bottom brackets I’ve settled on Hawk (non-ceramic) bearings. They give up a few milliwatts to a true ceramic solution but the additional reliability is more than worth the power savings.
Hawk BSA bottom bracket for Shimano cranks cost about USD130. Ceramic speed for same cost USD250 to USD300.
I have ~4,000 miles on my Ceramic speed bottom bracket on my gravel bike, and it hasn’t been overhauled / lubed yet, and it is running super smoothly. So if it is running rough after so few miles I would check the installation, especially if it is in a non-threaded installation.
Hmmm… I’ll pop the seal off the drive side tonight and see how much grease is in there too.
speed concept doesn’t have much to protect the bearings. Just a plastic top had that doesn’t even sit flush with the frame, so I can imagine water getting in there easily.
Ceramic speed was a “nice” upgrade over the stock bearings that spin perfectly smoothly but were a bit draggy. Oh well
Edit to add: popped the seal off the other side, little or no grease in there, so I’m guessing not enough grease to start with! Lesson learned I think!
I recently had a BBinfinite installed on my bike and towards the end of the first ride it was sounding rough. Uninstalled and re-installed and realized the pre-load adjuster (SRAM Red Crank) wasn’t set correctly. After I corrected that, it was silent.
watts. So the first gradation on the y-axis is 500 milliwatts. Meaning that the difference between those first 8 or 9 options is just about meaningless. My right pedal has a creak in it…so that right there is probably more than enough to undo an advantage ceramic bottom bracket bearings might provide.
But everyone who rides with me loves that creak so much. I don’t want to get rid of it for their sake.
Press fit…threaded? Sounds like it might be slightly out of alignment? Frame needs to be faced if threaded? I have a BB infiniite GXP on my roadbike, every year I flush the bearings per their recs and inject new grease that they sell…thing spins forever…Its 4 years old now. I just had one of their press fit BB’s installed on my MTB…the shop was amazed at how smooth it was.
It depends on whether they just had light oil or if they were serviced with grease. I have Campagnolo Cult bearings which call for just oil but I grease them for maintenance longevity. I could care less about the 1/2 watt savings (probably less).
You would have to have the BB shell faced to make sure its all square. Many high end bottom bracket are one piece now…the entire shell is pressed into the frame, it eliminates creaking and alignment issues.
quick update here from Ceramicspeed BB rider. it game with my ostro.
after 4000km in summer and now around 500km in winter the BB is toast. I think a ride in the rain with some snow caused it, ever since it’s legit creaking. never had this issue with SRAM BB or ultra BB which have always lasted 1-2 years including winter and wet riding. (around 20.000km)
I will stay away from ceramic speed as I noticed no performance gains under ideal conditions but certainly problems in bad conditions
toasted as it needs to be serviced or toasted they need to be thrown in the trash? Ceramicspeed has lifetime warranty so if they are toasted you could try to have them send a replacement. Also what grease were you using? I haven’t had issues wth mine yet, they are coated bearings and I use the “gravel” version so they have the long life grease
to be fair I dont service bearings…I replace them haha.
just ordered a service kit from ceramic speed and will give it a try next weekend to flush out the dirt and degrease them with the long life grease you mentioned. I think my shop had packed the bearings with the standard or even race grease so no wonder it didn’t last long.
I hope the service will help…based on YouTube video its not too complicated
While not Ceramicspeed, I had an Enduro ceramic BB in a previous bike and bought the spec grease they call out for maintenance. Those bearings did need a good deal more attention than steel bearings to remain running smooth and they were not ridden in wet conditions. In all honesty there is no discernible difference I could feel from one bike to the next when comparing ceramic vs steel bearings. I used to believe the hype over ceramic bearings but have come to learn that ceramic bearings are not optimal for use in a bicycle and a high quality steel bearing will perform very well and last much longer, at least in my own experience. Will not be investing that kind of money in ceramic bearings any longer.