Choose rollers over smart trainer?

I wish I had seen this thread earlier. I had a set of Elite Quick Motion rollers for two years and used the Misuro B+ to give input to Zwift etc. Great work out. You will enjoy the QM rollers as they are fun. Learning curve for rollers is steep but quick. After just a few days, I was able to ride with relative ease - but with much more focus than on a fixed trainer.

However, a year ago I upgraded to the Elite Nero Rollers- WOW big difference in workout. Same mobility as QM rollers but Nero is interactive and can change resistance on its own up to a 7% grade. All the workout I need. I sold the QM rollers to a friend and haven’t looked back.

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I’m interested in the Nero rollers. I had the Arion Digital smart rollers and whist I really liked them I didn’t end up using them much so sold them. I had to use an external power source though because they weren’t the most accurate with their power readings

@dwtrux

true, then again I actually did miss the changing of gears, the “need to think and react to the workout on your own” on my kickr quite a lot.
Riding various workouts more or less in the same gear is simply not realistic.
Yes, I could switch away from ERG, but what is the sense of a smart trainer then anyway?

And: I dont need superprecise data. I am just an average Joe working out a bit here and there. Taking o off the wheel, having to live with chain noises here or there since Kickr and wheel do never have the same fit… that startet to annoy me.

We will see… for some time I will keep both and then…?!

Reason I went from QM to Nero was the smart interactive resistance on the Nero. Using My E Training Real Video, see a hill the trainer increases the resistance and I have to change gears. Doing Sprints - gear down and can spin up to my max wattage which is not much more than 390 Watts [FTP is around 175 so not anything but an amateur] .

As to precise data, with the QM I had used the Misuro B+ to judge wattage and ended up with Assioma power pedals. It and the Nero do a decent job against the pedals - about 10 to 20 watts different sometimes but most of the time within 5 watts against each other with pedals being faster to change.

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dont get it, you need to change gear on the Nero, too?

On Kickr with ERG you can but dont habe to

On dumb rollers you have to - i get that

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Its only my opinion but I think smart trainers are a bit a bit of a gimmick. You can replicate changes in resistance on manual rollers using gear changes, just as you would on outdoor rides.
If your trainer has manual resistance you can tune it to reflect your real world gearing. Shifting to your smallest gear will feel like Alp D’Huez😉
Why would anyone want to sit just mindlessly spinning the pedals, when you could enhance the experience, again just my opinion.

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This thread brings me sudden urge to own Elite Quick Motion and do structured training on it. whewwwwww!

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You change gears for the same reason you do in the real world. As you go up hill, rollers get harder to turn so you need to gear down. When on descent or flat, you can sprint,

Also the Nero has flywheel to help with getting momentum like in the real world as well.

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What mode are you referring to? It doesn’t sound like ERG mode.

He is talking about Simulation mode in an app like Zwift, Rouvy, etc.

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I finally understand that feature request that someone made awhile ago about auto-generating terrain to go with a TR workout!

Recently discovered I have a noticeable L/R imbalance so I’ve shifted across from turbo to rollers and after 3 weeks the difference between L/R is reducing. Rollers are great especially for Endurance efforts as boredom is much less of a reality.

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wow… First “ride” was… wow… like learning to ride a bike all over… had no clue how to get the thing going… brutal but fun :slight_smile: gave up for today… tomorrow :slight_smile:

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well done! loads of good advice on YouTube, an Australian female pro springs to mind …
keep us updated on your progress.

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wow… :slight_smile: looked a bit different in my case :slight_smile:

you’ll get there in no time, just don’t ever get too confident, I still have scares when I lose focus or get fatigued. but that’s also one of the great benefits of them

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After initial wobbly attempts, at some point it will all just click together. Then you’ll ride for a period of time no problem and start thinking you are lord and master of rollers.

Then you will fall off or almost fall off :grinning:

A bit further down the road you’ll have forgotten all about the learning curve and will start riding with hands off the bars, taking drinks and then doing roller tricks.

Somewhere in there is when you fall off again :grinning:

But, despite people thinking if you fall off you take off like a rocket ship, there is no forward inertia and that does not happen. Rather, you just topple over or manage to get a foot down in time to make the save.

Couple more rides and you’ll be back here bragging about how easy it is to ride rollers.

-Mark

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haha… thanks for all the encouraging words to all of you. … can’t wait to get on it tomorrow again… crazy thing…

at this point I can’t believe I’d be able to even stay on it for a minute… I planned pettit for Monday :slight_smile: a bit optimistic I guess :slight_smile:

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yeah, maybe take it easy with the form sprints! :rofl:

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ufff… i jumped on the bike right away this morning… i think I can relax a bit more :slight_smile: , but I put on a high gear and ended up pushing quite some watts…

It worked out much better than I thought, but still some way to go :slight_smile:

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