Choose rollers over smart trainer?

Looking good :heart_eyes_cat:

I would recommend

  • relaxing your death grip and widening your grip to the hoods not tops
  • putting more pressure on the saddle
  • setting rollers to the lowest resistance, bike in the highest gear and spinning 30-60mins a day until you feel completely relaxed

Pretty soon you will wonder what was so hard in the beginning!

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excellent!
I will repeat the advice about your grip, widening your grip will give more control.
and you can always use a doorway if you donā€™t have a kind assistant available :wink:
when you progress from the doorway make sure always consider your bailout options :ok_hand:

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thanks guysā€¦ death gripā€¦ yeah - exactly ā€¦ and my death look in the face :slight_smile:

i actually really feared to die :slight_smile:
Will try again tonight!

I had a high gear already at the lowest resistance setting 1ā€¦ and still it felt like 250 Wattsā€¦ i will add my speed sensor tonite and do a freeride on TR with Virtual Power and see what power reading I get. Felt really like a lot of resistance. Maybe I have to go higher on Cadence?

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Huh! I guess the lowest resistance setting is still quite heavy. The reason for using a higher gear is to get your wheels spin faster and thus make your bike more stable. So just shift down until it becomes easy but the wheel speed is still high.

How about your tire pressure? The higher the tire pressure, the lower the resistance.

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her demonstration of getting on and off was bizarre

Yes I said the learning curve was steep - but thankfully short.

Few suggestions as stated above:

  1. Use max or high tire pressure
  2. Use a short step or stool [ had a 1 foot stepstool that works] to get on and off. Allows you to sit on seat to start off and makes it easier to get the wheels spinning
  3. Put gear in the middle gear in back so that while it gets the wheels moving, it is still easier to spin.
  4. Cadence between 75-90 RPM. Slower is harder to balance as you are learning - Higher is harder to prevent unwanted side to side movement as you are learning - both makes it hard to stay upright on rollers.
  5. Loose but firm grip - as said no death grip
  6. Focus on something in front of you about 6 feet and stationary - not a movie or Zwift screen yet due to the natural tendency to move with the bends in the roads etc.
  7. Try to relax and try only 15 minutes, then 20 minutes and then get to the longer time as you get more comfortable.

In less than a week you will get to where it is easier but still requires focus.
Oh and HAVE FUN!

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yes very strangeā€¦??
Take a look at this method, Iā€™m still undecided if its fake or not. respect if its real, iā€™ve had rollers 2 years and still canā€™t mount unaided.

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Nothing fake, just an elbow on the glass door. No body is that steady on 2 wheels when stationary.

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the window seems very far away for that, doesnt it?

Definitely elbow on the glass. Not very safe!

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Nope, look at the rollers and window frame at the bottom. Next to each other with minimal gap. Watch her left elbow, totally stable then moves.

does it harm the function of the movement of the quick motion rollers if I put some noise cancelling and dampening sponge kind of carpet under the rollers?
Pushing the Quick Motion down until there is tension on the belts is quite some pressureā€¦ It already left some marks in the wodden floorā€¦

thanks!

tire pressure is high, should be fine! thank you

It will slow, damp and potentially stop the surge motion (fore-aft) when you put it on a soft surface. It is meant for use on hard surfaces.

I guess I donā€™t understand what this means?

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On carpet or even Elite mat, the wheels sink in and reduces or eliminates the advantage of the movement of the QM,. I bought two 1X6 boards about 5 feet long and place on mat and then QM wheels on boards. Works like a charm and makes the QM function well with little noise.

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I wanted some dampening under my rollers so cut a sheet of ply slightly larger than the area of the rollers, attached high density foam to the underside, which effectively gave me a foam sandwich when sat on the floor ply side up.

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thanks! I will consider your suggestions!
@mcneese.chad
the tension of the Quick Motion belts is quite high. whenever I unfold the rollers I need to push the middle part down to the ground and secure the middle screw. then I can start the workout.
While pushing down the lever the pressure goes also into the ground. soft wooden floors easily get scratches or pressure marks. that happened in my case. got it?

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similar to this video is my solution, I guess you could tack a piece of carpet underneath, hopefully resolving both your issues :grinning:

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somethings wrong or is it not?

just did some 10min Freeride on TR on the Quick Motion Rollersā€¦ same room, temperature, setup etc as I usually workout on my Kickr, my FTP is around 240.

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I put it on Resistance 1 of 3, started with high gear, pedaled around 90rpm, but had to go for lower gearā€¦ I could not push it furtherā€¦

Did barely more than 70-90 Watts (Virtual Power vis Wahoo Speed Sensor), and went for max 160 Watt in a sprint kind of thingā€¦

Sweating like I never sweated on the Kickr, Heartrate around 140bpmā€¦

Wow am I sweatingā€¦ 10minā€¦whats wrong here?

actually I find it very noisy compared to my kickr, i feel bad for my neighboursā€¦

Soundclip at 80rpm, lowest resistance, low gear:

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmcyJInmhuK_j4sbOfi-LDIRz2fycQ?e=hgRCSe

my tires:

  1. Never compare Virtual Power and power from smart trainers or power meters. As much as we might hope they are similar, there are too many variables for that to be a wide reality.

  2. Whenever you change power measurement devices, you should retest immediately. Your FTP on each device is very likely to be different in each device (see #1).

  3. Those tires will be loud and vibrate. They have more tread than is best for trainer and roller use. You should be using a smooth tire if noise and vibration is a concern.

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