Cyclists over 100kg with 4 w/kg FTP?

Exactly pure watts are always important. That’s why I don’t like the focus on W/kg too much. W/m2 (CdA) is often more important.

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Keep talking🤣
I’m still slow on the road, need to reduce my CdA in the kitchen

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Whilst raw watts are good, as a 4.0 W/Kg dude at 100Kg, that’s a lot of KJs to be fueling for, outputting and then recovering from on a daily basis.

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Yeah, but if you’re at 100kg you’ve probably got decent eating capacity as well! As long as you’re replacing the calories there’s no reason why recovering from workouts with a 400W FTP would be any harder than recovering from workouts with a 200W FTP.

There is a huge difference in terms of nutrition :slight_smile: with 400W ftp you probably need something around 5000 - 6000 kcal/day? This is a lot of eating and preparation of food.

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Not that I’m 400w, but totally agree. This is why I like eating peanut butter straight out of the jar :laughing:

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Its worth noting the power drop while cutting also probably wont stay when you start eating at maintenance again. People freak out when they are weaker (or everything has a higher RPE) in a cut and say losing weight is making me weak/slow/whatever and quit. If you are in a 1500+ cal deficit that may be true-ish but if you are losing less than 25kcal per lb of bodyfat per day you are fine. Will every workout suck more and feel slow, sure. Its not cause you are smaller its cause you have no carbs on board. It will bounce back when you are done.

I’m not at 400W but when I’m in a big training block I’m regularly burning well over 4000cal/day and 5-6000 on long ride days. Eating that much has never been a problem unfortunately, it’s scaling it back down on the recovery weeks I find hard! Not really much more prep either, some of the extra calories are taken during the ride and I tend to buy rather than prepare my training nutrition, the extra calories at meal times are just a question of pouring more oats/rice/pasta into the pan (or scooping more ice cream out of the tub…)

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Also not at 400W but at ~320 and I definitely can easily hit 4000+ Cal on a normal day. You just have to make a bit more food. Most of the work with cooking meals is in the prep anyway so its not much extra to just scoop 50% more rice into a pot or grill 2-3 more chicken breasts. So its maybe 10% more work for 50% more food. Plus you get to eat more ice cream.

I know because I am 50W lower and nutrition is the one thing I cannot dialup even closely to the requirements and calories expendure. And I need merely 3500-4000 kcal.

I’m currently 374w and 104kg, been trying to lose weight by eating less than 3500cal on training days, initially lost 6kg but now getting nowhere for past 2 months, was told that wasn’t enough so upped my intake and now I’ve started gaining🙄… been like this for decades! Hoping to hit 400w and under 100kg next year

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Depends on your build if 4w/kg @100kg is doable - if you’re all muscle then you’re golden.

With regards to weight loss without losing power - patience and not having a cal deficit of more than 500 a day is the key I think.

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This. People think about wkg WAY too much. I’ve over 5wkg for ftp, and get dropped by bigger guys more often than i’d like on power climbs and flat sections.

If you do have wkg goals, fine - there is more to it. Don’t get me wrong i also have those goals.

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