Yesterday I noticed when I completed the session my next AI detection was 16 hours. I had an outdoor ride today and to be honest, I am expecting a good FTP rise. I pushed the one from October 3 back. and last month it said I was still on the same. But I have hitting some really big numbers and would have expected this one to be a rise. But there was nothing this morning.
I forget the requirement but after an initial few indoors workouts âto put a spade in the groundâ as to your predicted FTP, it starts to tweak it with data from out doors rides too. Perhaps youâve not reached that initial indoor threshold.
Edit: From @Caro.Gomez-Villafane link, the Threshold is 10indoor rides, after youâve done that AI FTP D will use any ride with power indoors or out.
Hey @litifeta 
AI FTP Detection takes into account all rides with power data, whether theyâre indoors or outside, structured or unstructured. This can include group rides, races, and even rides on other indoor training apps synced to TrainerRoad.
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I got it to give me a new one by asking for a ramp test. 1 watt increase. 7 weeks into a FTP program. What a waste of 7 weeks that was.
What workouts or types of workouts did you do?
I was having the same outcome but I was focused on sweet spot but once I started doing threshold I started seeing increases in FTP.
Yes I did the workouts. The FTP came from AI which has been monitoring my progress since April.
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The workouts come from a TR training plan for FTP increase. I had just finished another plan I started in April and wanted to build my FTP.
My FTP is also unchanged since April where I have been following a TR program with mostly outdoor rides. Iâve been riding 7.5 hours a week. I donât understand why my FTP hasnât changed and am working with TR support to figure it out. Iâm definitely a stronger rider since April.
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Which training plan?
FTP builder
The plan is called FTP builder. I would have kept what I had if it was not going to build FTP. That was the point
@ddetch, I just want to clarify that @litifeta FTP has increased since April 21, 2024, in fact, it has grown from 181 to 207 in 7 months, which I think is awesome! 
I am glad youâre already working with a TR Support agent to figure out whatâs going on with yours.
@litifeta, as @ivegotabike mentioned, as you start getting to the higher numbers of FTP (âthe limitâ) weâll naturally see smaller gains, but this does not mean you havenât experienced fitness gains as we can see them in the ability to complete harder workouts over time and raise your Progression Levels.
I feel thereâs also a bit of info missing here, as FTP should be addresses case by case⌠I took a look at your 7-week plan, and it only has 2 interval training days (was it manually set that way?) whereas the month prior you were completing about 3 interval workouts per week. This reduction in interval work can have a direct impact on the ability to raise your FTP much higher than the one you currently have. So, if anything, I would say the plan was able to successfully raise your FTP while doing less interval work.
If you think your FTP should be higher, you can always do a Ramp Test and see how they compare. This is a great way to test AI FTP Detection, except of course, youâll have to do a little bit of work 
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The interval training days was changed by the program. As others have pointed out I questioned this.
Iâm still trying to figure out what plan youâre talking about. I dont see anything called FTP Builder on TR.
What volume structure? What discipline? Masters plan or regular plan?
It would also be helpful to see your calendar, screenshots work pretty good.
If you use the new plan builder (I believe it has to be on the Web, not the app) and choose âGeneral Fitnessâ rather than âEvent/Raceâ, there is a option for âincreasing FTPâ. There are other options for climbing, endurance, general fitness, etc.
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Was it changed or recommended that way?
The way the updated Plan Builder works is by focusing on consistency, recovery, and efficient progress, it offers a sustainable path to results that may differ from methods youâve used before, but itâs specifically crafted to help you achieve your goals.
It does this by looking at your past training history to recommend the amount of training stress that would benefit you best. However, if you think you need 3 Interval days instead of 2, you can manually adjust it.
I guess the point I was trying to make is that, even at 2 interval days, the plan was still successful at increasing your FTP. As I mentioned, as you start getting to the higher numbers of FTP (âthe limitâ) weâll naturally see smaller gains, but this does not mean you havenât experienced fitness gains as we can see them in the ability to complete harder workouts over time and raise your Progression Levels.
I understand you may be frustrated but she clearly did not call you an idiot nor imply anything of the sort. She is simply trying to help resolve your issues.
Doing a ramp test (or other FTP test) as a way to confirm your FTP is a perfectly viable solution and what you did leading up to your current plan is extremely relevant as she clearly explained in her posts.
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