Great point. Only 70.3 (triathlon). But would plan to do it in a 140.6.
You’re right, I’d probably never do this in an event where it might last longer than 12-14 hours.
These words are probably wiser than I can presently imagine!
Wasn’t sure if this was socially acceptable still, but I’d definitely go this route if it were socially permissible and logically feasible.
I’m not sure I plan to do any races approaching 20-30 hours, so this may never be a bridge I’ll ever realistically cross.
I guess it depends how you define “ultra”….I’ve done it in a full IM before with no issues. Anything longer than that, I imagine you are gonna have to stop at some point to refuel…an extra 30” to pee isn’t going to make a huge difference.
What I don’t get is that you drink so much you need to pee in a 1-hour race. 7 hours gravel is understandable, in a way.
Still confused 
He’s taking the pish.
What a thread though, lol! Glad I’m not male.
be glad you’re not dedicated/obsessed enough, as an amateur, to resort to peeing on yourself or hooking up a condom catheter so you can setup a pee mister to get people off your wheel. lol
I’m sold !!! Didn’t know this was a option, ordering now
Everyone has to pee. Not sure if female athletes resort to this stuff tho.
Usually women’s races are a bit shorter, and women are maybe better at holding it in? Think I’ve never absolutely had to go during events of up to 5h or so. Longer races, I find it hard to believe that you couldn’t come to an agreement with the group you’re in (or that you are actually in a group) and can’t stop.
too many factors…
5 hours on a race is not 5 hours group ride (although depending on the people of a group ride it could become a race).
I think most endurance athletes could hold for 100 miles (5 hrs @ 20 mph) ride IF thats the only thing they are doing.
If you are in the middle of a Ironman then you will also do a marathon after, so that person is probably drinking lots of liquid and will eventually have to pee.
At the end, i think if you spend more than 5 doing any endurance event, you will need to stop or pee on the bike.
Dude… You gotta practice whipping 'er out and taking a whizz while you’re on the bike moving. We do it in P/1/2 races all the time.
You can be like that italian decathlete from last week and let it all hang out.
I say this as a toilet advocate: “…until you miss your PB by 30s”
I’m not proud but the weight of peer pressure has made me try the wetting oneself during the IM bike leg. As a consequence I neither won the race, nor set a PB.
There is literally nothing that would make me load up with a condom catheter in T1 or any other situation you freaks can imagine(!) barring medical necessity.
You shoulda run faster. 
You must have missed the pod on hyper hydration and glycogen usage.
Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it.
Especially the bit about not having to get out of bed in the middle of the night to tinkle.
Peer pressure or pee pressure?
I do on 3+ hour rides and need to find a bush or public toilets. I really don’t like the idea of a shoe getting squelchy…not sure I could risk ‘whipping it out’ and then have oncoming traffic getting distracted. Maybe this feature in the silly crash thread?
It’s my loss but I’ll stick to stopping by a bush.
Another benefit of riding gravel. Often zero traffic and few other riders. Just stop and pee on the edge of the road
I have completed LOTOJA 5 times and will race it again this year. In my experience everyone is ready for a break around mile 40 just after the route veers right before beginning the Strawberry climb. Make sure you are near the front and start discussing a pee break. It will not take much talking to get the rest of your group to pull over to relieve themselves. After the Strawberry climb your main group will be split up into a lot of little groups and again if you start talking riders will want to pull over and relieve themselves by early afternoon. I can usually get the group to stop twice and I usually get to the back of my group and stand and turn sideways and go while still moving 10-15 mph preferably on a slight downhill a couple other times during the race. In my opinion, there are enough things to worry about without adding a catheter to the list.
@Dr_Alex_Harrison for a true ultra race, here is my out-of-step-with-cosensus belief: you gain more from briefly stopping to take a leak than you lose. Make a point of 100% relaxing every muscle, take in the scenery, have a drink, pinch your tires, spin your wheels, get back under way. I really, really believe that you get more back than the time you give up from a brief rest like that (in an ultra setting).
Not in latoja, though. Latoja is too short to mess around like that and it’s draft legal.
I’ve never been on an ultra podium that was decided by a minute or less.