Was in the process of doing a ramp test and it occurred to me that it ought to be possible to display a live calculation of your potential FTP (1min power divided by .75) in addition to it being displayed at the end of the workout.
I think this might help me push just that little bit more for that extra watt.
Thoughts?
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We have chosen not to do live FTP updates in the app because we believe that it will cause riders to limit themselves rather than push harder.
Oftentimes users have a specific goal in mind when they are doing their FTP test, so the moment they reach their goal, they are willing to give up. This is not how the Ramp Test is designed to work. We donāt want you to quit when you reach your goal; we want you to quit when you physically canāt continue.
I hope that makes sense!
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Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense.
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I donāt know, if you believe in gamification then seeing your āscoreā racking up should be more likely to push you harder. It certainly sounds like it could be a winnerā¦
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Maybe an option to display or not could be considered?
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It shouldnāt matter. The point is to push yourself as hard as you possibly can until you reach total failure. Donāt chase a number, just go until you canāt.
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I really really want this feature as well. The mental power to push a little harder when seeing that number racking up can do a lot more than physical power without mental powerā¦
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I try not to look at the time pass 15 min inā¦ Just to get that 19 ish min in is a mind limiter I think.
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Then my suggestion would be to change the Workout Instruction Text. Given that break-even for the Ramp Test 19:30, I find these two instruction text lines particularly incongruous.
18:05 - Then youāre a tougher athlete than I am
18:12 - You have officially surpassed Coach Chadās ability to endure
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Perhaps it shouldnāt matter, but Iām pretty sure psychological factors like this do matter.
Maybe Iāll do my next ramp at the gym so I have an audience 
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Also discussed here
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I get what youāre saying and for some that may be true. But,I feel like if someone is concerned with reaching a certain number they might settle and say I feel like Iām done instead of actually being done. Itās just a different mindset going into it.
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I do agree that text need updating since the ābreak evenā point to maintain same ftp is 19mim 30 secs. If you know this then can ākeep own scoreā if you wish!
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Ditto the above. We all now know itās 19m30s to break even.
Perhaps the Ramp Test needs just to show elapsed time per ramp.
I know when I did my last Ramp Test that hitting 19:30 was a negative motivator, in that I felt intuitively that I didnāt need to do any more, because I was in positive FTP territory.
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I didnāt know the 19m 30 until this thread. I canāt unsee it now!
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I dunnoā¦if you are chasing a number, then this is a self-limiter. If itās that important, do math prior to and figure out what target you need to hit to make you successful.
Iāve passed this feeback onto the team, thanks Julian.
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I donāt think that psychology is true, not for us competitive cyclist.
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I agree with TR here and itās been discussed plenty of times before. The ramp test is designed for you to go until you absolutely cannot anymore. If you are suggesting that seeing a number would help you, then you havenāt been giving it your all.
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āGiving it allā is probably more mental than it is purely physical.
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