Feature Request - Reasons Given For Workout Adaptations

Hope I’m not on my own thinking this would be a good addition, but think it would be brilliant if you were given a reason for the adaptations proposed for upcoming workouts in your training plan. Recently TR has advised a few adaptions that I have no clue why.

One was a reduction in up coming endurance workouts, the only reason I could see this was my pc crashed 4mins from the end of a 2hr ride, I rated it as easy but maybe it saw it as incomplete?

Another was I completed an hour half sweat spot ride, I’d under fuelled and it was a bit of a mental battle, but I got through it and completed the survey as hard. It’s now proposing reducing the pl level of my upcoming ss rides.

It would be great if it gave a reason for the offered change, even if it was very concise. Then I’d have a better idea to know if to go with the adaptions or sack em off, cos maybe it was just a bad day.

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Hey, @Matt_W1 :slight_smile: I’ll pass along the feature request!

I’ll explain a bit about how adaptations work and address your examples.

Adaptations
Adaptive Training will switch out upcoming workouts in your training plan to ones it judges to be more effective based on your recent performance. The main motor for these adaptations are your Progression Levels. These are dynamic, real-time markers of your progress and reflect your capabilities at your current FTP. They are determined by the Workout Levels of your recent workouts and how successfully you completed them.

More info about Adaptive Training and Progression Levels here:

Endurance Levels Down
I took a look at your account and there could be a few reasons why your Endurance Levels went down for future workouts.

  1. If you hover over your Endurance Progression Level in your Career tab you’ll see your level went down due to “Training Zone Inactivity”

The above happens because you either stopped completing workouts at that training zone or at the current PL Level or higher. In your case, it looks like you completed an Endurance workout of 6.0 on September 29th, after which all your Endurance workouts were below 6.0.

  1. Your Endurance day may have fallen on a Yellow Day. Your last Endurance workout on the 14th may have been reduced to a lower endurance level to keep fatigue in check. This is done with the Red Light Green Light feature.

  2. You may be in a Recovery Week, or the endurance workout may be a recovery day within your training week (e.g., Wednesday’s rides). For these types of endurance workouts the intention is to keep the intensity low.

Sweet Spot Workouts
As far as your SS Workouts, I don’t see where they are going down on your Calendar. Since you started the plan, they have been incrementally raised to 5.6 as you’ve successfully completed all of them, and your next SS level is 6.0. Sometimes, there are recommended adaptations to lower the workout level of future workouts, but they are still higher than your current Progression Level. This is done so that workouts remain Productive and we don’t recommend you Breakthrough workouts.

Lastly, you’re always welcome to contact TR Support with any questions you may have about your training plan, adaptations, etc… at support@trainerroad.com.

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Thank you for the detailed reply.

As you list 3 reasons for the change to the endurance ride, that’s why I think it would be great if there was a few short sentences explaining why the change, because then I could make a better judgement deciding to keep or ignore the proposed changes.

If its was because my pl level had dropped (although I would expect the plan I was on to keep my pl levels increasing), then I would ignore the changes. If it is because it falls on a yellow day then, I would be more inclined to accept them.

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Yup! I get where you’re coming from and agree we could give a reasoning :slightly_smiling_face:

A good way to tell if a given day is meant to be easy is when you build your plan through the Plan Builder flow in the Schedule section, as it will list out if a given day should be an Easy Ride:

Then, Recovery Weeks are easily spotted since you’ll only get scheduled Endurance workouts.

If its was because my pl level had dropped (although I would expect the plan I was on to keep my pl levels increasing), then I would ignore the changes.

In this case, I would also accept the adaptations if your PLs go down on a given zone. They are easily regained and the plan will continue to increase the Workout Levels if you keep active on a given zone. It’s better to decrease the level for one workout and successfully complete it, thus letting AT know you’re ready for higher Workout Levels than potentially risking jumping into a level you’re not ready for. The idea is to progress through the levels not make big leaps.

Totally unrelated, but I noticed you’re using the old Calendar. If you’d like to set the new one you can enable it under your Account settings: