It’s a sales and marketing spin game not unique to them. Happens all the time.
I still have faith in them and didn’t believe the last update regarding delivery time but the CANNOT have meetings before these press releases.
Who in gods name is writing them and signing them off? Time and time again they over-promise and under-deliver. It has become embarrassing.
@GPLama’s review just posted.
Looks pretty good based on the GPLama vid.
Amusingly I just got an email from SRM announcing that their X-Power meter is a now eye watering €1199.
Tremendous! Not sure on the plastic cap and future water ingress.
Hopefully I get my dual sided delivered some time this year!!
Looks like reinforced (carbon shavings likely) resin. This is injection moldable goo that’s basically carbon fiber lite - the particle board of carbon fiber. (similar to almost every pedal body on the market, shoes , and many bike saddles). Should be fine over time / similar to metal, especially with an o-ring seal.
Also, there are sensitive electronics and the battery compartment. The stuff you care about is behind a second seal in the pedal spindle. The battery compartment can let a bit of water in/out without too much concern. I’ve got a P2M and Quarq with batteries behind similar covers that I’ve forded water with. That cover is mostly keeping the bearings somewhat dry and holding the battery in place.
I’m sure they are fine, provided one pays attention. Even alloy caps with a fine thread are not particularly durable against users who misalign and cross thread threm, use too much force and or use crappy, ill-fitting tools. Besides that, O-ring seals aren’t meant to be crushed down as hard as possible anyways.
It’s probably fine. I look at my Stages PM, and it is a 1/8 turn cover with a <1mm O-ring and it is in a place that catches a lot of road spray in the wet. The 4iiii Precision looks like the same setup.
I’m surprised to be honest at how well the IQ2 fares in the Lama lab test. According to @gplama’s testing accuracy seems to be spot-on, which is good news. I’m really thinking of getting a pair of IQ2 power meter pedals for my secondary bike now.
You and me both! Let’s see how the backer deliveries stack up… and their dual systems.
While IQ2 hasn’t done a great job delivering their power meter on time, I am glad to see that they have prioritized accuracy here. Nobody wants a random number generator on their bike.
The expense seems low enough to equip my mountain bike with a set. I don’t use my mountain bike for structured training, but it’d be a nice thing to have to accurately track TSS and use it for pacing. Of course, I’ll wait a little longer until we have more feedback from backers.
That was my thought when I backed them originally. I’m still swapping my Vector 3’s between my TT bike (on the turbo) and my road bike, and at the moment that is daily (and has been for about 2 years since backing!!)
Also my V3 are single and I’m waiting do dual sided IQ2 which will be nice to see things like LR balance that I’ve never seen.
I’m happy to hear about the results.
IMO, the mtb pedal is likely going to be a huge win for them if they can scale and get it out. Most recreational / beginners use spd pedals.
So the good news is - they can build a precise single-side pedal-based power meter.
Remains to be proven:
- Proving the dual-side works
- Proving durability and reliability
- Ramping up production to reasonable volume while maintaining quality
- Ramping up distribution and logistics to move the volume
- Ramping up support resources to cater for the growing customer base
- And - proving they can do all of the above, in a direct-to-market model, at the pricing they announced, in a profitable/sustainable way.
Durability will be an even bigger issue with mountain bike pedals, which are subject to more abuse.
At this point the biggest question at this point is ramping up production volume while maintaining quality.
If they can’t (maintain quality), then ramping up support will unfortunately top the list pretty fast. Nothing like bad support for customers who are already aggravated by non-functioning products. The worst your quality, the better your support must be…
I agree about durability generally but part of me thinks that they shouldn’t be overly focused on making the most durable mtb pedal as possible.
I think the target of their MTB pedal should be recreational cyclists and those beginners that want to start zwifting but aren’t going to commit to a 500+ trainer as a sole item. I still believe that beginners should get a power meter + a set of rollers with a fork holder (The feedbacksports omnium specifically) as their first entry into indoor training. You can use the power meter outside and the omnium can be used when traveling and at races if you go that way as well. Committing to a $500+ direct drive trainer starting out to do online training is a very tall order because many end up hating it.
That said, a robust MTB pedal would be amazing. But as a first go, I’d be happy with an MTB pedal that is more for the road than the trail.
I’m more interested for my Gravel bike to be honest. And also (hopefully next year) when we’re on camping holidays as it doesn’t seem too much of an issue to swap out for days the bike gets left on site!
Agree on this too. I just think spending time making a mtb pedal that’s for things like enduro etc would be a bit of waste since they’d be the first affordable spd pedal if they get it out (the xpower by SRM is 1199 euros…lol)
It’s ballpark the same price of upgrading my topstone tiagra chainset, bb and front derailleur to 10 speed GRX (adding in my guessed mechanics costs) so I could use my 4iii. But with added flexibility of the pedals (any bike/ hire bikes/) and no concerns about clearance.
IF they can finally pull it off…