@Nate_Pearson@SeanHurley - These are great additions. It seems you are really leaning into letting athletes tune their volume more precisely, which is awesome.
Something I’d love to see that I think would pair well with what you’ve announced here today is the ability to choose how many days per week I have to train in a given week (regardless of what volume plan I an running). Right now the recommendation most often given is to choose low volume and then use Train Now to add volume on an as-needed basis. This works, but feels like a bit of a hack. I often know I have 3 or 4 or 5 days to train in a week, and I’d like to know ahead of time what AT thinks I should do. I also have to imagine the algorithm will periodize the week better if I can tell it how many days I have to train.
As somebody who has been around >5 years and liked the old plans both for time and intensity:
Is it possible to get a hidden link somewhere to “legacy plans”, I.e., the pre AI, pre reduced-intensity version? Thinking SSB 1-2, Sustained and Short Power Build, General Build, and a few speciality plans?
Comparing the updated Mid and Low Volume General Base plans, the Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday higher-intensity workouts are the exact same. The Mid plan just adds an hour of endurance on Wednesday and Sunday. That’s leaving me wondering which plan is right for me. In the past I’ve followed the Low Volume and then my unstructured rides were generally on Wednesday and Sunday, and usually endurance (group rides) albeit obviously messier than an ERG spin. If I did the Mid Volume plan, it’s likely I’d replace maybe half of those endurance rides with group rides (but never the higher intensity rides)…so does the guidance change from “pick Low Volume if you’re adding outside rides” to “pick Mid Volume but only replace endurance rides?” I lean toward doing the latter so that on weeks when I don’t throw in a group ride, I have an endurance workout lined up and ready to go. Anyone have thoughts on this?
To be honest if Adaptive Training 2.0 were out, I don’t think I’d be having this dilemma because then my unstructured rides would (theoretically) get accounted for. That is, I’ve pretty much trained at Mid Volume by following Low Volume and adding endurance rides. But my endurance progression level was like 1 for most of the plan.
Forgot to add: obviously here and loving TrainerRoad!
Hi, interesting updates. Thanks. A question:
Having completed the 4wk LV Base phase, I am in week 2 the Build Phase of LV plan, and Plan Builder has me in Sustained Power build LV.
I was considering swapping to the Master Mid Volume plan, and assumed I would be offered the “Masters Sustained Power Build” option.
However, when I click on “Build” and get the pop up window, the only Masters options I am being offered are "Masters General Base I, II and III!.
Awesome updates to wake up to today. I actually got the prompt when I opened the app ready for this morning’s workout Well done Nate and everyone at TR You are upping the game yet again.
Looking forward to trying this when I start structure for next year. Just have an - it seems to be defaulting a 1.30 hour workout rather than the 75 minutes I selected at the start of each block, and endurance rather than the hard workout I’d expect?
@Nate_Pearson regarding HV plans:
I’m aware that your HV customers are a very small percentage of your users and not your primary focus. However, it’s interesting that the new HV General Base has MORE intensity than the previous SS Base. Instead of having simply SS workouts in all phases of HV Base, in Base 2 and Base 3 there are now Vo2 max and Threshold over/unders. This looks similar to the old MV Base plans and being more of a “pre-build” phase, rather than true Base.
I suppose the thinking is that since Sundays are now endurance instead of SS, then Saturdays can be more intense. As a long time user of HV plans, I’m not a fan of these changes and it looks like I’ll have to heavily alter them. On its surface this seems contrary to the general consensus of having 2 and some times 3 intensity days per week. Before one could ague that SS is not necessarily intensity. However, with Vo2 and Threshold o/u workouts that’s not up for debate. I simply don’t want or need that kind of intensity so early in my training season. Base is a time for me to unload intensity both mentally and physically to prepare me for the next training/racing season. Having o/u workouts EVERY Saturday on ALL phases of HV Base is far from that. Over/Unders are a mentally uncomfortable place to be in and not somewhere I want to be in December and January so far from any races.
It will manage the progression of your intense workouts and allow you to customize the duration of those workouts and your non-intense workouts. I suspect those easy and endurance rides would be where you’d want to either extend the default duration in plan builder or just add more workouts to your calendar on your own.
I was also very fond of the old HV SS base plans and I had the same concern when looking at the general base plan. I have no interest in doing VO2 workouts on the trainer in January. Why not leave the SS base plans as an option for those who liked them?
For those with interest, here is the existing feature request for direct workout integration of TR workouts in Zwift. You can add comments and your effective “+1” vote as desired.
Additionally, here is a link to the 3 main guides on running TR & Z together. They cover pretty much all the options so we don’t need to re-cover them here.
Well done Nate and everyone at TR 
You are upping the game yet again.
