Everyone complements Sean on the quality of the interview. Just ask Conan. That episode was the 
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Did you see that they just discontinued Fruit Stripe a few months ago?
Ssd…another piece of my childhood gone.
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Kudos, Eddie. Your post aged very well.
I have to admit, I was quite skeptical — until The Escape Collective brought out its story. His power numbers are bananas.
Can you imagine, seasoned, fast pros pushing hard and Pogi is noodling around in Z2. And since he’s quite fresh, he then launches an attack at you, to devastating effect.
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Pretty sure what he calls z2 numbers are fatmax or in a 3 zone model. He said his HR is like 150bpm while doing it. That’s not just noodling around z2 as most of us think with a 6 or 7 zone model
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Can’t really judge absolute HR values in isolation. Need to know LTHR at least.
My personal z2 (not 3-zone model) HR upper limit is ~159 and I’m no Pogićar. Done 9h rides before with an average HR in the 160s.
I think it was in that interview, but in a recent Cyclingnews article based on that it says he is still regularly going over 200 for MHR, so yeah 150 isn’t particularly high for him.
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It has been reported his heart rate often tips over 200. Not saying 150 bpm is easy for him but it is not as hard as most on here.
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I’m 54, have a max HR of 192 (taken from ramp tests) and switched to to doing my Z2 from HR last year, base the HR from nose and talk tests, but I aim for around 145, it’s the Watts he’s producing at that HR that makes me hate my parents
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The article makes clear that they are talking about Z2 of 7. His max and LTHR heart rate may be higher, so 150 bpm need not be tempo.
The only thing that is not clear is whether Z2 is 75 %or based off of blood lactate levels.
In the podcast, he says that if he goes out and rides 5hr at z2 one day then he is not riding his bike the next day (ie that is a big effort). That’s not what any of us think of z2 ‘all day’ pace. He also says his z2 changes based on how long into the ride he is and how much fatigue he has, so it mustn’t be a set percentage of a fixed number. Also, his z2 in Mallorca is 340w bc he has a series of climbs and descents, whereas his z2 back home is 290-300 bc he can ride steady. So when he is talking of z2 in this interview, he prob means what many refer to as ‘fat max’.
The article is paywalled, but I’m just talking off of what tadej said of himself during the interview
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Hmm, that seems fairly standard to me. If you look at outdoor-first, high volume training plans, they typically include long Z2 rides on the weekend. And they are bookended with a rest day.
The purpose of the rest day is to shed fatigue in the larger progression.
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I think you missed the point his Z2 is low Z3 and he as we would needs a rest.
We, most of us, think of Z2 as Coggan Z2, its not in this case its Coggan Z3
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I haven’t missed that at all. I’m saying that regular athletes get prescribed a rest day after one or two long endurance days (which are hard workouts even though the intensity is low).
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But his arent low, they are Z3
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Wasn’t it the case that many pros do endurance rides pretty low % of their FTP, 60% or even lower. Because even if riding 70% doesn’t feel too hard for them it’s still pretty hard metabolically. The amount of carbs burned is high.
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He is more highly trained and he and his coach seem to treat it as Z2.
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No. It is a z2 effort, just not at the same power target every day. It’s not a z3 effort, although I am sure he goes above his z2 here and there during the ride.
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Yes, Z2 which is traditional Z3 (according to ISM.)
Lots of assumptions being made 90% are wrong.
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See comment above. Are you assuming what Z2 is, tell me how he and his coach defines it?