Yes, i know this question has been discussed a number of times, but @Nate_Pearson it would be AWESOME if i could do my TR workouts properly while riding passively in Zwift.
I can do this with Training Peaks. Go in to Zwift, load the TP workout and BOOM! Happy days.
Come on PLEASE @Nate_Pearson
I often load up Zwift and ride for the gamification and the scenery to take my mind off the suffering that i am going through on the workout.
I have done the ANT+ & Bluetooth dance. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesnāt. Most times the two fight with each other and confuse my Kickr completely. Iāve tried 2 ANT+ devices. Iāve tried Zwift on ANT+ and TR on Bluetooth. Iāve tried them the other way around.
There should be no reason why we canāt do this. Please work on this integration!!!
Theyāre just nice simple zwo files. Basic xml. You can keep your proprietary TR data in TR, thatās fine, but please enable proper integration with Zwift.
I donāt understand. I do TR and Z together for every indoor ride I do with the exception of Z races. Turn bluetooth off on computer, plug in ant+ stick. Start Zwift and leave controllable trainer blank. Choose a course and hit the ride button. Open TR on phone. Connect everything ( trainer, pm, HRM, etc) via bluetooth. Start riding, enjoy the scenery and XP.
What issues are you having? Can you list so we can diagnose? The only reason TR and Z would fight over the trainer is if you have them both connected, which you shouldnāt.
I have sympathy for that, Iād use it too, if the integration existed. Maybe one dayā¦
In the meantime Iām sure you have looked at this thread (I know this is not your point with this post):
You can disable Bluetooh in the TR-App. So when you launch TR first, it will grab the ANT+ Device, then you can launch big Z and all what is left is the BT device (uncheck the ācontrollableā). And, if youāre data-crazy like me, then also start your garmin and connect to ANT+ tooā¦ Works rather reliable for me.
For longer TR workouts, my setup as follows:
Run TR on phone controlling Saris H3 turbo using Bluetooth
Zwift or Rouvy on PC using ANT+ power meter connection (dongle)
Loud trance from YouTube in background
It would be incredible to have TrainerRoad plans integrated into Zwift and accessible in the way you see the āflexibleā plans native to Zwift now, as well as constantly changing and updating with the new ML algo. Two way sync of course also.
From a business perspective it would beā¦ brave.
Not sure either party is ready to make that leap, there will be a lot of anxiety and perceived roadblocks on a partnership like this.
Zwift used to have worrying leverage here from the user loss perspective. (Zwift is simply more fun as well as having plans which are sufficient for many users - I know competitive athletes who only train on Zwift). I think thatās changing now though with the Adaptive Training, and that not only puts TR back on top, but also opens up the pathway for them to export their virtual coach to other platforms, including Zwift.
Why stop at offering this to simply TR users when you can get sell it as a branded service too elsewhere.
Perhaps forming an exclusive partnership with Zwift offering virtual coaching can edge out SUF who may eye up something similar if their numbers start to wane (I feel SUF is the most vulnerable, luckily Wahoo has taken over ensuring longevity for as long as Wahoo wishes, but they canāt ensure retention).
Agree it would be ā¦ brave! For me the user experience could not be further apart and I doubt this is remotely on TRās roadmap as the two businesses (in their curent forms) appear completely incompatible.
TR have a very reliable platform, the UI is excellent, they are extremely responsive to feedback, products are constantly upgrading / refining (almost always for the better) and their customer support is outstanding.
Zwift have an utterly shocking user experience with constant platform bugs, a UI from 20 years ago they are unable to upgrade, endless connectivity issues across all platforms, any attempt to dress it up as more than a game fails (racing is a farce, power data is a random number generator when it exists at all, winner doesnāt cross the line first etc), customer support is non-existent and so the majority of upgrades are to bring out a new pair of virtual socks.
By now I donāt expect anything more from Zwift than what it is - plenty of good intentions but ultimately an amateur effort. TR set their bar far higher.
I think this is unlikely to happen. My limited understanding of this integration with training peaks for zwift essentially would import the ride into training peaks as an āoutsideā ride where intervals are laps. Trainerroad has a great deal of secret sauce in the app that is monitoring your performance beyond just the gpx file that is shared between vendors. It would likely make any of the new AI and other features work like they do with outdoor rides, which right now is not supported and would essentially turn TR into just a workout library, which doesnāt seem like what they are looking to be. Not to mention, there is a reasonable work around that many use quite well that has already been listed here.
my Solution with a Kickr core since it has dual Bluetooth connection is TR on the iPhone and Zwift on the iPad. Disable controllable on zwift. Done. works 100% of the time with a TR image on my zwift workout as bonus.
