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I see it on Android too.

Wow this is amazing. Looking back at my history, it does a really good job predicting when I need to recover. This tool should keep me focused on the long term and remembering I canโ€™t regain fitness in a week! Like I just tried to do :man_facepalming:

Thanks @Nate_Pearson and @Jonathan and the rest of the TR team!

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Turned it on and it seems to be mostly as I expected which is good! Typically 2-3 yellow days/week when Iโ€™m progressing my training and as expected they follow the hard training days and normally align with easier or recovery days anyway. Figure thatโ€™s normal and productive. Recovery weeks yellow free (phew!).

Havenโ€™t had a red since November which is largely because my training has been pretty structured and during the winter months my long rides typically top out at about 3 hours. I do get a much higher incidence of reds during the warmer months where I often do longer group rides, sportives or long races. Did have one huge ride of nearly 600TSS a few years ago which seemed to singlehandedly cause 3 consecutive red days! Might try and dial back the epic days a little bit as we get into warmer weather this year, see if I can turn more of them from red into yellow.

Only other blocks of more than one red came from stage races and training camps which I guess isnโ€™t a surprise. Not much I can do about stage races, and already take good recovery after these. Training camps seem to push me into the red by day 3 even when Iโ€™m being disciplined with the intensity and keeping it all aerobic. My gut feel is that itโ€™s OK to keep doing long rides on red days in this scenario, as Iโ€™ve done this many times before and always had a good fitness boost following a few easy days on return from camp and only on one occasion come back ill or overtrained (and that turned out to be because Iโ€™d caught covid in the hotel we were staying at). Seems RLGL is only looking at the rides themselves, so wonโ€™t factor in that when Iโ€™m away from home on a cycling trip Iโ€™m not working, have no chores, no life stress, am sleeping longer, likely having an afternoon power nap and maybe a massage, etc. Would love to see a future iteration of this that can factor in some of that data from wearables!

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Great work on getting this out. I think this will be really useful. One question that i can not see that in the above. I am assuming this only takes into effect any cycling you I have done. Where my runs are also being uploaded to the calendar, i am presuming these are not taking into consideration?

According to the FAQ, it does include runs. And I think @Nate_Pearson said above somewhere that swims werenโ€™t far off being included too.

Although I donโ€™t know if thatโ€™s both treadmill and outdoor running? And will it be both pool and open water swims?

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Thanks. Completely, missed the FAQs link.

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I was thinking about canceling the subscription and switching to a ready-made training plan from TP, and hereโ€™s Trianthlon Master Plan and RLGL day by day:) Good job TrainerRoad team:)

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Hi,

Iโ€™m currently in another mail chain with one of your colleagues regarding what I consider to be the unacceptable number, and implementation of software updates, but your nivation below feeds into that discussion regarding unacceptable software quality โ€“ see below for info and feedback on the RLG functionality etc.

Phil

Text of previous mail:

Iโ€™m sorry butโ€ฆas I put in the comment, it is simply unacceptable to have so many updates (there is another today!) and to implement them in the way that TrainerRoad does. If you are saying that these are to make improvements, my assessment, having worked in IT for a very long time, is that the software simply isnโ€™t fit for purpose.

There have been 14 updates this year, including 2 occasions, on 29 Jan and 3 Jan, where there were 2 updates in one day, resulting from rolling back to a previous version because of โ€œcritical bugs!โ€ this is very clear evidence that the software is not sufficiently tested prior to release. I assume there is some form of automated release train, but quite simply, this too is not fit for purpose.

I received an invitation last night to trial the Red Light functionality โ€“ Iโ€™ve looked at that this morning and that too doesnโ€™t work โ€“ I understand effectively its Beta, and you are looking for feedback but again, my view is that it is not sufficiently mature to be released for even Beta testing.

Sadly, after a number of years using TrainerRoad, I will not be renewing when my current subscription ends.

Phil

This implies that software can be fit for a single purpose and not evolve. Not the attitude of anyone I know who works in IT for a very long time (as I have).

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Iโ€™ve enabled the Early Access and quite excited to try it out. As a new father myself - @Nate_Pearson youve mentioned a few times that this feature will be useful for new parents or people with other outside stress. Iโ€™m just interested to know how that works given that TR only uses the training history.

As an example, if my training volume stays the same but I suddenly become a new parent, how will RLGL know to give me a red light?

Or is it working under the assumption that this event will reduce my training, and then RLGL will adapt from this new volume of training?

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โ€ฆIโ€™ll put my IT record up against yours any day, having been Programme Director for a number of multimillion GBP/Eur business transformation programmes. I absolutely agree that software both does, and needs to evolve, butโ€ฆ.it needs to be done โ€œwith qualityโ€โ€ฆthat I simply donโ€™t see in Trainerroad software.

Anyway, enough ranting from me now, I just get so frustrated when I see things like this. Good luck with your career!

Cheers

Phil

Phil, good luck to you and your future training. Wherever you choose to do it, hopefully fewer software releases will help to make you faster.

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Well @Nate_Pearson for all the bs talk about burnout, following the plans doesnโ€™t seem to have put me in the red too many times from my first look!

My Raid Alpine adventure on the other hand, red after day 1 and only another 5 days to go! Really stands out on the calendar!

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Donโ€™t know if youโ€™re still not seeing it but looking at my calendar it takes a bit of time to backfill the data. Iโ€™ve got red/yellow status up until end of Dec so I think it might take a bit of time to fully populate.

From the FAQโ€™s at the link in Mingโ€™s OP

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This threw me a little, given I have tickets to see them later in the year.

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Youโ€™re not even trying

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Ah I missed that one, thanks!

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@Nate_Pearson I donโ€™t see this fully answered. Very excited to test this, but the question above would be useful in that regards. Like this week for me Iโ€™m pushing โ€œa bit too farโ€ on purpose as I have a vacation comming up and โ€œlifeโ€ messed up last week. I still want the โ€œnormalโ€ AT to work, but if RLGL adapts my upcomming threshold wo Iโ€™m not going to listen to it :slight_smile:

Side note: I commute to work with no power or HR. Whatโ€™s the best way to have these be useful input to RLGL?

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