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Maybe I’ve missed it, but is there guidance on how to fit in/record/allow for strength training?

I’ve failed quite a few workouts over the past couple of years due to trying to fit in gym work, and whilst I think I’m learning how to balance the two, could RLGL help me here?

e.g. never do gym work on a red day (or a yellow day?)

Furthermore, is there any way to tell RLGL that I’ve done a gym workout?

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  • At present, RLGL is only using bike & run workout data, so there is no direct way to handle strength training or any other activities outside the two mentioned.
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Coming from power lifting, so far in beta it really emulates the one day on, one day off way of thinking we followed in the gym.

I haven’t seen that. More like hard day/easier day unless the hard day was SUPER hard or exceptionally high load.

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I wondered what all of this stuff was in my calendar. I’m glad there wasn’t RLGL when I did my cross country trip. According to this algorithm, I would never have made it across the country due to the “mandatory rest days”

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That and many other examples of stage races, training camps & such seem like edge cases to me. I would not expect RLGL to necessarily handle those types of events. I consider those beyond the realm of “normal training” that I think TR aims this feature.

When it comes to these big and repeated efforts, that is just something you do as part of the event and I’d not be looking at an app for my direction. The work ahead in those cases is what it is, and you do it or you don’t.

There may be a way to leverage RLGL with an eye towards finding and hitting harder vs easier efforts relative to fatigue, but I’d still take that with a grain of salt unless or until you correlate it to your real feeling & efforts in similar circumstances.

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I’m currrently taking a break from winter in Tuscon. My goal while here is to push as much volume as I can tolerate at my age. So far I’ve had 2 weeks with TSS >500, and am planning a 3rd. I will hopefully have covered 500 miles in 3 wks as well. I’m not following a TR Plan and haven’t for the last 3 years. I do my own plan and build my own workouts with the workout. creator. I find that I respond pretty well to volume.

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Don’t know if the word “mandatory” in your post is serious or sarcastic… but my understanding is you can train through red and yellow days, but if you do it ALL THE TIME you risk burnout. It’s a warning system making you aware.

This week’s podcast mentioned that Hannah had trained through three “yellow days” but then took a number of days to recover after that block. Previously they mentioned that a Tour de France rider did not have any red days (or maybe one, can’t remember).

My take away here is that you can train and race through yellow and reds… you just can’t keep up indefinitely and will need to take recovery after. Secondly, if you are getting a series of red days you likely were not able to do proper training in preparation for your event. This would make sense as us with jobs and families can’t ride all day as a pro would.

It is ok to push yourself… just got to make sure you recover after.

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So what does your current RLGL state look like with this recent training period?

At what value is “mission accomplished” accomplished? Zero?

I keep having this problem. I bit of a bigger ride than usual puts my next day to yellow, advicing to do “endurance”.
I follow this, doing super easy ebike rides to recover.
But then it puts the next day to yellow again instead returning to green.
Either the advice about doing “endurance” is misleading or the the decision to keep me in yellow. Which one is it @ZackeryWeimer ?

Perhaps off-topic, but I find it interesting you have rides around and over 2.5 hours at 65 & 45 TSS. Are these really that low intensity for those durations?

And if the 3rd ride above is an ebike ride at half the duration along with pedal assistance, why is it so close to the TSS for the prior day?

Something seems a bit off to me with the power data there, but perhaps there is a good explanation.

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That data is all correct. Long riding times are either E-MTB with long descends or sightseeing tours with kids on the child seat.
I am not really “training” in that sense currently.

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I don’t know the exact triggers for RLGL and your previous ride history but at a guess your big ride triggered an amber which was just below the red threshold. A ride the day after kept it in the amber zone as you were starting from a high base albeit at the lower end of the threshold (just above the green light).

The model I believe runs on the basis of a regular bike and will overplay the effect of a long duration activity on an E-Bike.

I dont have an E bike but I find it also overplays the effects of a long no effort ride. I guess playing with the sensitivity may achieve the best results for you.

Can you set it to exclude rides for RLGL purposes?

Im not sure you can exclude rides from TSS records, that might have the same affect :-/

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Btw, my TSB derived “form” is somewhere around ‘0’ right now and my Garmin Fenix tells me that I will be “fully recovered” within the next 8h, which is long bevore I’ll get up tomorrow Morning.
Yes, I know, RLGL is something else, unique, predictive etc. But is it also correct?

Could be ride length not short enough

Thanks Chad.

I might try setting my Training Approach to slightly conservative to allow for the two days a week when my ‘Rest Day’ will include a gym session.

Let’s see how that goes…

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