New Roadmachine being offered with Dura Ace 2x12
https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/intl_en/roadmachine01-one.html
I’m surprised and not surprised Shimano is sticking with 11-speed cogs and doesn’t expand the range. What a disappointment, that means it still won’t offer native 1x solutions.
12k bike that comes stock with a 50t chainring. Guess they know their audience.
link is gone now
still on international site
What’s wrong with a 50-tooth chainring? When you live in the mountains (of, say, Switzerland), you probably choose your chainrings by your climbing gears. I’m more surprised they only specced an 11-30 cassette in the back. If Shimano continues to limit its DuraAce RDs to 11-30 (officially at least), that’d seem like a big mistake.
50/11 is fine unless your pro
If you spin at ~100 rpm on the (false) flats, you can do with way less. When winds are fair, there are a few stretches of road where I can do 48-52 km/h, and then I am usually in 50:13. Unless you like to grind gears, a 50:11 will be plenty, unless you insist on pedaling on many downhills. Unless I race, that doesn’t interest me so much, I don’t want to become an organ donor.
My new bike will have a 42:10 as its tallest gear, so roughly equivalent to 50:12. I was debating between a 42- and a 44-tooth chainring. I went for the smaller one since I am in the smallest gear a lot, lot more often than I am in the 50:11.
Nothing worse than riding with a tail wind in a group spinning 100rpm… and they just roll away from you.
I need to be on your rides mine only hit 38 in a sprint
Roll away from you? You must be riding in much more serious groups than I am
At 100 rpm you’ll do 58.2 km/h if you have a 50:11 vs. 60.6 km/h with a 52:11. I’ve been on some pretty brisk group rides (with former pros, domestic pros and the like), but I don’t think there was ever a situation where we went significantly faster than 50 km/h (unless going downhill, of course) and pack closely together. In my experience I don’t think I’ve exceeded 55 km/h — unless going downhill, of course. Even holding 50ish means you need to have a tail wind or be shielded from the wind.
It’s Texas… we don’t have hills but it’s stupid windy sometimes.
35,9 mph = 57,8 km/h, you can do that on a 50:11 spinning at about 100 rpm. Why do you need a 52:11 for that? At 109 rpm (your max cadence during that time), you can do it in a 50:12.
PS Also, this was a downhill segment (-5.1 % average gradient). Yes, I sometimes spin out on downhill segments, but in most cases I am limited by not wanting to cross lanes because of traffic. I can think of only 1–2 places where I can safely go beyond 50:11 and even there a 52:11 isn’t that big of an improvement. Certainly not enough to make up for not having an easier uphill gear.
-0.5% grade. False flat if anything.
Sorry, you are right, my bad, I was looking at the wrong entry.
Still, 50:11 seems to work great if you natural high-speed cadence is 95–100 rpm. (Mine is, but of course, this is a personal matter.)
Mines 80-85rpm. Here is a 3.5 mile segment with a good tailwind:
That was almost certainly 50x12 from looking at a gearing chart, and pushed my HR up to LTHR.
These days the Wed night crew is averaging over 30mph on that segment.
Guys, we are looking at the specs of one bike…we don’t know yet what other options may be available. Based on the cassette option listed, I would fully expect Shimano to offer at least a mid-compact crank option, if not a regular combo as well.
My guess is BMC just opted for the compact crank option for this bike.
I remember being attacked by a world champion track rider on a group ride and I was in my big ring and he was still in his little ring. It was his recovery day. That’s when I knew I had no gift
That’s a different matter, of course, so I reckon at 30 mph = 48.3 km/h you’d need a 52:11 at 80 rpm. Although you could do 50:11 at 85 rpm.