Stage simulation workouts: right PLs?

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I’ve seen in the workout library some stage simulation workouts (like the # z - 8DC Stage 7 2013 for example) with very high PL but to me quite feasible compared to standard interval workouts of similar PL. I feel the PL of these stage workouts is overestimated. Am l right?

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I’ve not seen them (Stage Simulation Workouts) but custom workouts are completely mis calculated by TR, overestimating their PL’s.

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Yeah I’ve seen these workouts in the catalog before

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You are correct @mcneese.chad! Thank you for pointing that out.

I am going to consult with the team and get back on this one as I was not aware of them myself since they fall into a very old timeline challenge (2013-2015).

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Update:
These are super old workouts from the early days of TR and were never meant to be training workouts. Instead, athletes used to ride them to follow along with the Tour of California race each year. Each workout Mimicked a stage from the race. If you finished all 8 stages in 8 days, you’d get a badge on your profile.

We do need to remove them from our Workout Library and move the workouts to a Team so that if there is anyone who still wants to use them, they can join the team.

That said, we still recommend excluding them from PLs just to be safe @Jose_Manuel :slight_smile:

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Thanks for the clarification. I agree to exclude the workout from PL. But why exclude it from AI FTP detection? As any unstructured outside ride the effort should be also assessed by AI, right?

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Hey @Jose_Manuel! As of right now, excluding the custom workout from your PLs will also exclude it from your AI FTP Detection. However, we found a bug with the toggles where you can’t exclude from PLs/AI FTP Detection, so we’re working on a fix right now, as well as separating both options.

For you, @svens, I’d recommend what you have proposed in the meantime of us fixing this. Perform the TR workouts back-to-back that achieve what your custom workouts would’ve achieved.

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Thanks! Having the possibility of separately excluding or not the activity from either PLs or FTP detection would be great

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