Anyone backing the holobike? Or are all just staying on our own bikes with a smart trainer?
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They reached out. They said at some point down the road they’ll be ready for a demo. I responded that once they were, I’m happy to take a look.
But IMHO at this point, if a company can’t provide a 3rd party media/demo when launching a Kickstarter, I’d be concerned about it.
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I just want to know if they can make me feel like a bug flew into my mouth/nose/ear/eye.
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Or a big pickup rolling coal as they pass you
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Meh.
I have zero interest in riding by myself inside through a holographic world.
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the real Peloton killer has been just regular old time.
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Seems like some tech that should be bought/licensed by an established bike company, rather than Holobike trying to build an entire bike from scratch.
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I have zero confidence that this will ever launch. See Muov which has been almost shipping for how long now, and I have yet to see any outside reviews of this. Their Muov in the press is all from 2022 when they made a big splash
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This really seems to be offering an awful lot for a bike with a price point starting of $2600, considering the hardware and processing power necessary for a 27" 3D photorealistic display in 4K. Then there’s the cost of the smart trainer end of things with terrain-sensitive, controlled resistance. The flywheel also looks roughly the size of two vinyl LPs stacked on top of each other, so I suspect it’s not super heavy. Ambitious folks!
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In general, I’ll never send money via kickstarter. An exercise bike requires a large support network (repair/parts) and no kickstarter based company is going to have that in place.
Plus, this just looks like a fancy spin bike. I don’t ever want to train on a spin bike. And I honestly don’t want to see a virtual road on a screen (3d or not). I do not want to wear Apple or Meta VR googles to get some augmented reality.
Me, I just want to binge watch some fun TV show or a bike race while I pedal indoors.
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Agreed! He got some buzz however bb
I’ve looked into it. I would not invest in it. Too steep a price for now. The Wired article tells a different story in how it doesn’t work well in the first place. I Rode Saga's HoloBike and Things Got a Little Weird | WIRED
They really needed a demo to cement this product. The bike is designed very beautifully re Layer Design but the CEO is a designer but keeps saying he is a researcher and engineer. It seems like a giant scheme. I hope no one falls for it. Agree with @TravisM
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The bike doesn’t work. I was wondering if anyone else could pick up on this.
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and the over projected total addressable market for a stationary bike with a big screen.
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I don’t think they will be ready any time soon. I looked into it because I wanted to update my bike and I loved the name. The CEO is a designer who hired a design firm. It seems Adam Neumann like. He is saying he’s an engineer and researcher. There is probably also a reason Peleton didn’t pursue this. They had an Interactive division they shut down. What makes anyone think they hadn’t tried this? The engineering and product is not close to being ready from the Wired article (I Rode Saga's HoloBike and Things Got a Little Weird | WIRED). I agree with @AlphaDogCycling that it won’t release. The economy is bad. I wouldn’t buy into a cash grab.
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They appear to be death metal records.
Do the funding goals include the lawsuits?
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I keep looking at it and wondering “WhereTF is the hardware?!” It looks great, but I just do not see the physical space available in that thing for any of the parts that would be necessary to actually function.
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I did some investigating. Another firm manufactures the screens but as for other hardware? I can’t tell. Confused by the specs on the Kickstarter. It sounds like using AI terms for their own sake. Why did the CEO mention EMDR in the Fast Company article?
I couldn’t find any cyclists discussing this online. So thank you all.
While almost every aspect of this looks gimmicky, none more than the “holographic” display. The premise of wanting 3D immersion without wearing a headset makes sense for exercise of course, I don’t want something hot and heavy on my head working out either.
Autostereoscopic display technology has existed for a while, there were a bunch of products in the early 2010s that have since gone away because it’s gimmicky. The biggest problem is they have static sweet spots where the effect works. Move your head outside of that and the effect goes away, plus they can cause eye fatigue and headaches, especially the more you move.
Adding eye tracking and displays that can dynamically move the sweet spot in response to movement is a new-ish development, but it’s not a technology that’s perfected or you’d be seeing it a ton of other places besides stationary bikes.
It’d be awesome if they pulled it off, but I think the chances of that are very low.
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You said all the problems. When you get out of the range, the effect goes away. Apple Vision Pro calibrated the Vision Pro to each user and even then there was nausea and fatigue. They are also not discussing the eye tracking, it seems to overly concentrate on the design. The Wired article shows it doesn’t work well and is jittery. The hardware terms are all buzzwords. If you look into the background of the CEO, there is no engineering background. There was no need to misrepresent his background since the Peleton CEO was a career businessmann. We know what this means…