TrainerRoad and Zwift together?

[Power13]

@rocourteau

There are too many things I could list - but just think about the fact that basic menu functions are not accessible on the screen where you decide what you’re going to do (you have to “GO!” to get access to it),

[ssphillips]

Meh. It’s just like anything else in this world. Nothing is perfect, and most will be improved over time. I don’t disagree with you on any of this but I expect that all of these things will gradually be fixed.

Aside from that when I’m riding using Zwift I feel like I’m really riding my bike. It’s crazily compelling and captivates me just as much as riding outside. That’s what I like about it.

[mcneese.chad]

Eric Min mentioned major changes are coming to the UI, so we should see something very different Zoon.

[STP]

@rocourteau

you can’t select an event you have registered for (even though you see the event and the fact that you have registered for it);

Events on Zwift are scheduled by time. If you go early, you end up on a virtual trainer. Since 99.99% of humans prefer to avoid the absurdity of pedaling on a pretend trainer while sitting on a real trainer, the default is wisely set to free ride in Zwift until the event start gets close at which time Zwift starts asking you if you want to go to the event. Most people warm up by riding around then pop in a couple minutes before the start. The design makes perfect sense to me.

[shawrx]

Best of both for today’s EZ ride.

[shawrx]

I think they have done a great job with events which makes sense since the social aspect is what they are mostly all about. I like scrolling through the events on the companion app and then as you said logging on early and just warming up out on the course. The pop ups on screen and on the companion app to let you join the event are great and make it very easy to join whenever you want.

I just wish they would do this for workouts. I’d love to be able to look through the workouts on the companion app, select one, and have it ready to go when I log on. I know you can do this for group workouts, but it’s really needed for individual workouts that you want to start anytime.

I’m guessing something like this will be coming with the new interface, but as of now the TR experience of choosing and loading a workout is far superior in my opinion.

[donbikes]

Same here. Makes those long intervals more bearable. Kind of frustrating when the recoveries come during KOM climbs, though!

[trswem]

Two part question for the techy folks here. I have an iPhone X I typically use for TR. I also have a 2012 i5 iMac, and I am open to buying the new Apple TV. I would like to run TR on my phone and Zwift on the larger screen. Would my 2012 iMac handle Zwift okay, or would it be better to get the Apple TV? Do I need to buy an Ant dongle, and if so is there a stand out favorite?

Thanks in advance!

[mcneese.chad]

@trswem

Would my 2012 iMac handle Zwift okay,

• I don’t know one way or the other. But you can install Zwift, and then enter the game, as a viewer. You can click to watch any rider and judge the experience on your existing setup.

@trswem

Do I need to buy an Ant dongle, and if so is there a stand out favorite?

• First, we need to know what smart trainer, power, cadence, heart rate devices you have and if they are BLE, ANT+ or combo.

• Once we know those details, we can make more specific recommendations.

[trswem]

@mcneese.chad

• First, we need to know what smart trainer, power, cadence, heart rate devices you have and if they are BLE, ANT+ or combo.

Thanks Chad. I currently have a Cyclops PowerTap G3 hub, with Bluetooth LE and Ant+ compatible cap, on a dumb trainer. My understanding is I can’t use Bluetooth for more than one connection, so I would use BT synced to iPhone and Ant to the computer. I would like to be future proofed though, because Favero Assiomas and a smart trainer are on my future.

[mcneese.chad]

@trswem

My understanding is use can’t use Bluetooth for more than one connection, so I would use BT synced to iPhone and Ant to the computer.

• Yup, you got it exactly right.

@trswem

Favero Assiomas and a smart trainer are on my future.

• This will work in a pretty similar mode as your comment above.

1. TR on iPhone, BLE connection to smart trainer and power meter pedals (if you want to use Power Match).

2. Zwift on laptop, ANT+ stick and connection to power meter pedals (and specifically NOT the trainer).

[purplecu22]

zwift will run best on apples a10 chip set or higher, so maybe run zwift on iPhone and trainer road on i mac. i do both. but everything i have is a10 chipset or higher.

jeff

[ericallenboyd]

I run both as well and works great. 2 ant+ sticks with my imac.

[fastk9dad]

I’m trying something new this year, running the TR outside workout on my Garmin Edge and then doing a “free ride” workout in Zwift. I lose the ERG aspect of it that way but it is good for some workouts. the other way is just following the TR workout on my iPhone and again free riding in Zwift. I’ve only tested these so far but they seem to work well and will probably alternate depending on the workout. I like the social aspect of Zwift and the simulated outdoors.

[SomeCallMeTim]

@trswem

Would my 2012 iMac handle Zwift okay, or would it be better to get the Apple TV?

I run TrainerRoad and Zwift at the same time on my 2011 MacBook Air. Pretty sure yours will handle it just fine.

[trswem]

@fastk9dad

I’m trying something new this year, running the TR outside workout on my Garmin Edge and then doing a “free ride” workout in Zwift. I lose the ERG aspect of it that way but it is good for some workouts. the other way is just following the TR workout on my iPhone and again free riding in Zwift. I’ve only tested these so far but they seem to work well and will probably alternate depending on the workout. I like the social aspect of Zwift and the simulated outdoors.

I was experimenting with something similar last night and it worked well! I’m not particularly fond of Zwift myself, but keeping connected with the local cycling community is important to me, and I have a friend in another state that I would like to be able to do rides with, so I think this is a great compromise.

[Amnesty]

@trswem

I would like to be future proofed though, because Favero Assiomas and a smart trainer are on my future.

Depending on the smart trainer you buy, it is possible you won‘t need an ant+ stick. The kickr core for example supports two simultaneous Bluetooth connections.

[trswem]

For those of you that Zwift and TR simultaneously, for Strava and Training Peaks, which ride do you keep and which do you delete? Is there any reason to keep one over the other?

cc @mcneese.chad (thank you sir)

[Pbase]

I keep the zwift one because most of the SSB workouts have almost no cool down, and I tend to continue to ride for another 5-10 minutes after TR completes.

[mcneese.chad]

For workouts driven by TR, I keep my Zwift stuff on Strava and Training Peaks, and TR stays on TR only.

If I do a free ride, group ride or race in Zwift, that stays in all locations.