Same as Chad said. I use a cadence sensor now as it helps control the trainer in my opinion and keeps my H3 in check.
I started out on Zwift this past April and was enjoying it a lot, but I wanted the structure of a training plan so I just signed up for TR last week. Itās been great so far. Doing SSB mid-volume.
I didnāt realize the new Kickrs supported multiple concurrent Bluetooth connections. I was all set to go out and buy a laptop and ANT+ dongle just so I could run Zwift and TR together. Iām so glad I saw this post and saved myself some money. I have a Kickr '18 so now Iām running Zwift on the iPad, reading power and cadence from the Kickr, TR on my iPhone as the controllable trainer with cadence from my bikeās cadence sensor and heart rate for both using the Polar H10, which also supports 2 concurrent Bluetooth connections. And the Zwift companion app running on my work phone (Samsung Galaxy S8). It might seem a bit excessive to some, but I like that I can do a structured workout while having the visual stimulation/distraction and social aspects of Zwift. Iāve done 6 TR workouts so far and the connections have all been super stable, with no dropouts knocks wood.
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I run both all the timeā¦TR on iPad, Zwift on Apple TV. I use an NPE Cable to send PM/HR/Cad data to Zwift, then TR uses BT to receive PM/HR/Cad and control my KICKR.
From this morning:
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Cadence jumping like that will normally be another app causing issues.
I run a atom and if you donāt start up the apps in the right order you will get the cadence jumping around. Those apps being wattbike hub & zwift or TR & zwift.
You might need to check if anything else running in the background or the order in which you start apps.
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Personally when I had my H3 (now Neo2T) I had to install my old wahoo cadence sensor to get consistent readings.
Reasoning is wahoo and saris dont have built in cadence sensors and ācalculateā it which is not always great. No problems now as Neo has one built in.
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Same on Tacx Flux. Thereās a built-in sensor (itās a proximity sensor on the left side of the unit that triggers on your left heel), but itās spotty and slow at best, and a random number generator the rest of the time. I use a Wahoo Cadence mounted on my shoe in its place (and now on the road as well, too lazy to remove it from my shoe). It just works.
Hi all
Iām considering using TR and zwift during base phase to alleviate some boredom on longer less intense TR workouts. I want to check my proposed set up will work.
I have an old HP laptop, an Apple iPad, tickr HRm and a Neo tacx 2T.
I would like to run TR through the laptop and have this dictating ERg mode, and thus simply have Zwift as eye candy on the iPad. Whilst ensuring HRM is working too.
I am aware Iāll need an Ant+ dongle for the laptop.
Will this work? And any tips upon set up to ensure it does what I am looking to do above?
Thanks.
- Yes.
This guide covers everything you need (and more).
In short:
PC with the ANT+ USB stick, running TR and launched first, paired to trainer and HRM via ANT+.
iPad with native BLE, running Z with the trainer paired for āPowerā, but not as āControlledā, HRM via BLE.
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If the pace of one of the pace partners works it can be great for long sweet spot intervals. You can fine tune with a faster or slower bike too. If I ride with Bowie on a fast bike it puts me at 90% ftp for an hour.
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Agreed, the PP are fun and more engaging than a pure ERG workout.
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+1 hereā¦I did a slow recovery ride the other day with Dino. I found it super-engaging and an easy way to knock out an hour slow ride. Iām not good at pacing so it was mentally engaging the whole time.
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Yeah. Those Halloween pace partners were tough to dial in. It took a lot of focus to not go off the front. Iām a bit disappointed that we could not free ride in the costumes. Maybe next year.
Follow-up question for me. I run Zwift on a PC now and TR on my iPad. Can I run both on my PC with one Ant+ stick or do I need to then connect one vie BLE? OR is it even better to just run a second Ant+ stick. I like the iPad on my trainer desk, but sometimes think both running on the TV screen would be even better.
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You have to use 2 separate channels, so one on ANT+ and the other on BLE (or a 2nd ANT+ stick) is the only way to run two apps with connections to your devices.
Better is relative, and both solutions mentioned can work well. Some people have better luck with one or the other, based on the radio interference in their location.
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Thanks Chad. I am familiar with the issues BLE can cause, but as a single user of my trainer, it is straight forward. Iāll probably just keep doing what Iām doing. PC via Ant+ for Zwift, iPad Air via BLE for TR and iPhone w/Zwift Companion via WiFi. Hoping to see Group Workouts on iOS soon. Cheers.
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youtube explaining itā¦ has anyone done TR group work out with zwift and everyone is on zwift and on group work out?
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I could not find the specific use scenario in this thread so I just wanted to ask a couple questions and make sure that my planned setup should work well.
The final setup I am hoping to have will be a saris M2 trainer. To run trainer road I will be using a mac from around 2012 connected to a tacx ant+ antenna on the mac desktop app. TR will be controlling the trainer. I am also hoping to use zwift on an apple tv connected to the trainer via BLE and my phone for the companion app.
It seems like everyone is using ant+ to run zwift and BLE for TR, is there a reason for that? As long as I use TR as the trainer control and just power reading for zwift this setup should work correct?
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That will work just fine.
Great to know! Thanks chad.
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TR support recommended I use BLE for TR (so I connect to zwift and RGT with ant+). Everyoneās setup is different but BLE may be a better connection or avoid spin down / calibration issues.