What do you recommend and why? I’ve done some research and am still confused about when I’d want one over the other. I’m under the impression CORE is best if I plan to use TR and “sometimes” Zwift. CORE ONE is if I plan to mostly use ZWIFT…
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Yup. That’s because the single cog requires the Zwift-Wahoo Virtual Shifting for anything other than doing ERG workouts. And since that virtual shifting is restricted to Zwift at this time, it’s not the most long range minded option if you ever think you want to head in a different direction the single cog is limiting.
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All that said, it’s super easy to just buy or use an existing cassette and swap that onto the trainer in place of the single cog. So choosing to get the ONE and access to the virtual shifting is a fine direction.
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The biggest reason the single cog has as a benefit is sharing multiple bikes on that trainer that have different gearing and drivetrains. So if you swap bikes and/or users with different stuff, this is a nice option.
Ah, makes a little more sense now. My goal is (90%) of the time to not use zwift and either put my gravel or MTB rig on there and do TR or TP workouts.
They’re the same trainer.
The Core One comes with a single cog and the remote control.
The Core comes with an 11-speed cassette.
The freehub is the same and will take an HG-style cassette. Take a minute to change, if you have a chain whip and FH wrench.
I went with a One. Because my main trainer bike is a single-speed and my other bikes are all 12-speed. If I bought the regular Core, I’d have to swap cassettes.
It’s pretty silly they don’t sell with a 12-speed option. Or a “no cassette, save $20” option.
Thanks… I’m actually finding the Core is avail with no cassette option (REI and such) and save $100 over Wahoo direct with cassette.
As said above, if you get the Core One, you are tied to Zwift. Or at least, right now, you can only use Zwift to adjust the trainer’s virtual gearing. Will Wahoo add that functionality to their app or their head units? Dunno, not impossible, but not sure they have the commercial incentive to.
If you get the Core and you later decide to, uh, defect to Zwift - I am not advocating this - you can buy the Zwift Click kit. It says it’s only for the old JetBlack trainer version that they sold and discontinued. That’s not strictly true, you can take the spacers and cog off and put it on the Core’s freehub. And Zwift might decide to sell retrofit kits for the Core and/or other Wahoo trainers later.
Thanks… Your reply is crucial. while I’d love the ability to just throw on ANY bike and not change my cassette, the fact that I’l have to use zwift to shift is a deal breaker. I’ll rarely use zwift (or at least I think so ) I will mostly be doing custom Training Peaks and Trainer Road workouts.
If you’re doing prescribed workouts from TP and TR on a smart trainer, you won’t be shifting because you’ll be in erg more - the app will set your power, gear selection doesn’t matter.
Right this is how I do it. I have the core one and never need to shift because I’m following the TR prescribed workout. Sometimes I run Zwift in the background simultaneously (with the resistance disconnected) and sometimes I just run TR alone.
But bottom line is I always do the prescribed workout from TR with the trainer in Erg mode and it’s great.
Great points. In this regard, neither system matters as they’d behave the same, right?
Yep.
Quick question - are there workouts like the FTP testing intervals where you need to be off ERG mode, that you wouldn’t be able to do with the virtual shift setup?
TR’s Ramp Test works fine in ERG.
However, the 2x 8-min and 1x 20-min FTP tests automatically switch to Resistance mode in the test blocks.
- You can manually override this to ERG after that auto-swap, but it’s not the general recommendation. You will need to manually increase or decrease the Workout Intensity setting to set your desired resistance level. In this sense, it is sort of like “shifting” that is done in a typical use case, so it can be done as a hack at the very least.
Outside of those tests, some people prefer doing short/sharp workout efforts like VO2, Anaerobic and Sprint type efforts in non-ERG mode. There is a delay present in ERG mode that can make these efforts a bit odd compared to shifting. That said, I still use ERG for these workouts and am happy with the results. So in the end it is at least partly user preference.
Erg is one option, you can also ride in Sim mode and change gear/cadence in order to hit the power targets. Many people recommend/prefer the latter. One upside to having gears as an option.
Another random aside, IndieVelo has working virtual gears for almost any trainer, definitely including Kickr. I use this to stay in one gear, but still have the option to shift the bike during races etc if I want to.
Does this also apply to SRAM 12-speed drivetrains? On the wahoo homepage it says “compatible with shimano drivetrains only”. Or are there other alternatives for SRAM riders? Is it perhaps necessary to change the freewheel in order to be able to switch quickly between the single cog and the cassette?
If you have an XD/R cassette to use, you need to purchase the appropriate freehub body from Wahoo, to install in place of the stock Shimano HG freehub.
Having dual cassettes moubted to separate freehub bodies is the “quick” way to swap, but it still requires tools and a few minutes unless you get super fast at the process.