and then have it crash
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Lots of heroic work on here, thanks Chad 
(Wonders how many posts out of 1000 are by Chad himself 
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Visible at the bottom of the OP at the top of the pageā¦
As usualā¦ I have way too many here (+10% of the thread 
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PS, Thanks & you are welcome. Labor of love.
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You definitely deserve a grandfathered rate, or even less!
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Gawd, no, thatās the other thread from hellā¦
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Didnāt mean to drop namesā¦I dont even know them that wellā¦but if I were Nate or Chad and had the opportunity to cash out on 10+ years of hard work, I would do it.
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Hey, I am not judging what you said one way or the other. I just put out what I figured was the trigger for the following comment / joke, to help with the reference.
So they confirmed the sell out on the podcast todayā¦
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FIFYā¦ the joke will land better if you get the words right
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Nate rode off into the sunset on a tron bike with an orange cape.
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A fews things I think, some of which has been covered aboveā¦
- Speculation - DC Rainmaker doesnāt cover this without a source that gives it some credence (Ray - just like this post to confirm
.) - High confidence - Zwift and TR have an NDA. Everything we have seen screams NDA. Employees will have been told not to comment. Senior people (Jonathan and Chad for certain) will be in the loop. The Zwift survey which cribbed TR language on features would not have been released without an NDA.
- Medium confidence - The core team may be ready for a change or new challenge. It does seem like Coach Chad has some more eclectic interests these days and it wouldnāt surprise me if Nate was up for a larger challenge than continuing to bootstrap TR.
- Lower confidence - An acquisition makes sense if Zwift can integrate TR into its core offering. I donāt know enough about software to know how difficult this would be but it does seem like Zwiftās platform or user interface is not very nimble. Is some sort of partnership more likely? I donāt see how a partnership would work unless Zwift was prepared to cede the training side of its product.
- Concern - these brands are very different. TR controls and stays on its message (even when Nate goes rogue) and its ethos is based on engaging with its user base. Zwift has not done this nearly as well, does not seem to have a grand plan and the user community has driven the performance side of the user base through racing. But Zwift has the more disruptive product and its hard to preach get faster while ignoring that more people are now racing virtually than outdoors. If TR is absorbed into Zwift, it is hard to see the founders and long term faces of the TR brand sticking around beyond any contractual retention/earn-out terms.
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Man, Hannah looked like she was desperately trying to cover up a laugh / smile at the start of the podcastā¦inquiring minds want to know!!
You are very very kind. Such integration can be anywhere from demanding but feasible (if both packages are clean and modular to start with) all the way to absolute hell and impossible (if either package is a bowl of spaghetti). The last couple of years has clearly shown where Zwift lies on that spectrum. A single data point: they use an in-house game engine. Thatās as if TR developed their own forum app from scratch, but much worse since you donāt need the forum to work to use TR.
She was reading the summary of the transactionās impact on TR ESO.
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Based on what I have heard about Z general way to do thingsā¦ I would imagine their code is just a mess and would be 100 impossible to integrate as it isā¦ Probably with plug-ins (similar to TR to/from TP wo)
Thanks Chad. Working for me now as well. I will put my tinfoil hat in the desk drawer.
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Mind expanding on this? Few different ways to take it.
Here is a tiny bit more posted in a later comment:
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