We’ll have to agree to disagree, for me a diet that is not complete, is not a diet. A short term nominal loss, i’m not interested in.
As for the water weight factored in, I removed 5 kilos from the 23kg i lost, should abundantly account for the water weight difference in storing no carbs.
As for the measurements, I have taken them for months with belt+watch, with a nutritionist on the side. Of course I don’t measure everyday, but if you understand what I’m saying, you’ll see there’s a huge discrepancy in calorie count.
I guess I don’t explain myself well, so we’ll just leave it at that. I’m confident in what I found over the years on myself, I’m sorry if I cannot explain it in a better way. I am open to seeing other plans that just as efficiently satisfy all the mineral, vitamin, protein… I honestly cannot find a way to make them more efficient (granted, also adjusted with foods I like).
I burn around 2300 a day without moving from the house, more like close to 2700 without any exercise and just doing a few chores/etc. That almost never happens, I will typically use 4000/5000 a day, some days I take long rides and push another 1-2k calories over that. I don’t measure anymore, as I don’t need to. I have seen the difference at = calorie amounts of carb diet vs fat diet, and there is absolutely no comparison (for my body, that’s all I can research!). 1. the same amount of calories just make me fatter with carbs. It’s a mix of:
a. not having all i need at equal amount of calories
b. energy levels variate much more. with only fats I can easily go through the whole day without eating, and doing all trainings fasted. Not that I have to all the time, I don’t really force it. If I’m hungry in the late afternoon, I don’t hold myself.
c. generally just less hungry. 4k of fat stuff vs 4k of carby stuff…
d. I’m pretty accurate in my calorie consumption, I’ve measured it long enough to know. If I’m cycling hard and often over 150bpm, I know I’m close to 1k calories an hour with my weight. I’m not really considering the machines, although for reference I can use those just to see the difference between a workout and another. If I’m in the gym for an hour, I know it’s anywhere between 400 and 700 calories, depending on exertion/bpm/types of sets.
Either way, they are all nominal values. If you eat a piece of meat with 700 calories, it’s not just that it has 700 calories. You use 1. energy to process it/break it down. 2. it is ‘‘material’’ to build your muscles, not just an empty calorie in and out. You might think it’s a minimal difference, it’s not. Calorie is simply = burn the food in a lab, and see the temperature change that results from the burning of that food item. I hope you can see the difference in ingesting 1000 cal of sugar, that can only be used for energy or storing fat (which is totally not = eating fat), and 1000 cal of actual building blocks for your muscles, hair, nails, skins, etc.
I have found I have 0 use for any sort of empty carb, if not only for an immediate satisfaction/enjoyment.
Same applies to protein powders, I have completely eliminated them from years. And I’ve only seen results improve. If you play around with the numbers, you’ll see there’s a sense to it: Let’s say I want 200g of protein a day, If i take 50g of those from a protein powder… I’m left with only 150g from other sources. But those other sources also give me: vitamin D, b12, iron, just to name the main ones. By ingesting 50g of protein powder, I’m effectively reducing my intake of those important minerals (given I don’t want to surpass those 200g). I’ve studied a lot of athletes, such as Uchimura, that train strength heavily twice a day, many times gold medal winner, and figured it’s not true that you need to eat/ingest protein powder or any food for that matter 10minutes after your workout (or any of that similar bullshit).
The point being, most of the stuff out there is biased and made by people that have an intent to sell something (makes sense, if you don’t have any interest in it= you won’t invest in any research in your favor). What happens with only fats = you can train like an olympic champion, even in regards to pure strength (uchimura is a champ on the rings), while eating just once a day at night when you’re back home. Who has interest in that? No one. You walk out the door in the morning fasted, no need to buy any crap outside. no need to bring lunchboxes and whatnot. Gatorade, protein powders, pre workouts, and all that crap all have an interest to sell, so they’ll be prone to making studies that justify their use. People in the gym are bombarded with blogs and ads that tell them they have to chug down protein powder every X minutes or hours.
The reality that there’s athlethes that just train fasted and gain the same or more strength than those than eat every 2hours, seems to be lost in the void.
Naturally, no industry at all wants you to know you can easily avoid all that daily junk (and waste of time), and just feast at home with your natural foods. Which you will enjoy 100x more as it’s your daily ‘‘feast’’.
The power of repetition/propaganda is such that people even still believe ‘‘light’’ products are for losing weight. The reality that in the U.S. they eat less grams of fat today than in the 60/70s (when everyone was slim) still doesn’t wake up people to the fat-demonizing propaganda they’ve been subjected to.
The only thing you can do is try yourself. Don’t expect the majority to tell you any type of real truth. Calculate the stuff yourself. See yourself what you absorb best, what doesn’t irritate your gut. That’s at the base, because any and all gains and power exertion will have to be fuelled from there.
Edit: also another big factor in, is how much of what you eat gets converted into muscle/repair/etc. That also depends on how you train, if you’re wasting effort, or if you’re more methodical and a larger portion of what you eat actually goes to building (building in every sense… hair grows faster, nails repair faster, muscles, etc. Yes, when you have all your mineral and vitamin groups, also stuff like hair growing faster occurs).
