Could be a bug:
You could say iâm anâŚedge-lord
Weâre working on this one.
Got a double-header for the bug-exterminators today. Possibly an early-access calendar bug &/or RLGL bug, or how the two subsystems interact. AnywayâŚ
The pre-ramble is Iâve got some intermittent rain forecast from tomorrow (Tuesday) afternoon for about 48 hours, so I brought forward my threshold workout & run to this morning, & scheduled myself an easy social ride & 4h workout to put myself properly in the bin. Figured itâd be good to give my body something to recover from, & Iâve probably got two days off the bike to do so.
So the first bug⌠after todayâs threshold workout & run, tomorrow is yellow (expected), & on the early access calendar I got an adaptation pending: RLGL wants to downgrade the 4h endurance workout to achievable endurance, but itâs saying that the resultant workoutâs duration is zero. (See screenshot.) Iâm guessing itâs saying I should train for a max 1½h (the duration of the recommended Brasstown -1), but Iâve already got 1h40â scheduled which it doesnât want to touch, & it looks like it doesnât know how to recommend skipping the workout.
(I havenât tried reducing the duration & TSS of the social ride to see if it generates a non-zero reduced time for the recommended workout because I wanted to leave it intact for devs.)
Hereâs where there might be a second bug: Iâm not on a plan; all the workouts & other activities on my calendar I put there myself, including Little Yellow which RLGL wants to adapt. Iâve never seen RLGL try to adapt user-scheduled workouts. Seems that the new calendar doesnât yet inform RLGL about which TR workouts sitting on the calendar are user-selected & which are part of a TR-generated plan. And/or itâs invoking RLGL for adaptation without checking for the presence of plan-generated workouts.
Of course it seems plausible that someone at TR decided that RLGL should disregard whether it was a user-entered workout, but I can imagine this presenting difficulties for athletes who are working with a coach in person & using TR for its workout library & analytics. Or for someone scheduling their own private training camp.
For comparison, when looking at TR on my android phone (version 2024.38.0.92455), RLGL doesnât try to adapt either of these activities, & neither does the old web-access calendar.
Do you have adaptive Training enabled? Key info as Iâve already flagged a bug that having RLGL enabled, but Adaptive Training disabled, still results in recommended adaptations with the new beta calendar- TR acknowledged this bug. Hence the question if you are seeing the same bug I did, or something new
Ah yes, I see what youâre getting at. I missed the significance of that the first time. Yours also appears to be a case of RLGL trying to adapt a user-inserted workout. This post, I presume?-
I had it set up the same as you: AT off, RLGL on.
But just then I turned AT on to see what would happen.
It still wants to adapt my workout.
So in this circumstance, beta Calendar doesnât care what the setting is for AT; RLGL still wants to adapt this user-inserted workout, which is inconsistent with other methods of calendar access that I have access to: old skool web, Windows app, Android app.
The other issue I see with mine is, why did it adapt down to a zero-duration workout?
What happened to copying annotations? Did I miss something?
Not specifically the new calendar, but this is the first time Iâve ever seen two rest days suggested.
(I did do a 31 hour event without sleep on the weekend⌠so I can see the argument, lol)
This is not related to the new Calendar, and nothing has changed recently with Redlight Greenlightâs inner workings. You just really need some rest
This will be coming in a future update.
Appreciate the reply!
Youâve got two different issues here. The first one is a purely visual bug: some adaptations are displaying zero duration. Weâre looking into this one to see what the cause is.
The second one is, as you surmised, a result of having Adaptive Training turned off. RLGL does suggest adaptations for individually added workoutsâitâs one of its key values for athletes who arenât on training plans (and has been real help for me, personally, when not on a plan!) But since you have Adaptive Training turned off, it should not suggest these adaptations. The bug here, which another athlete reported earlier in the thread, is that RLGL adaptations are still getting suggested with Adaptive Training turned off.
This one is on the list to fix, but the number of athletes with Adaptive Training disabled is very small (most of you are probably active in this thread ) so weâve prioritized fixing more common and wide-reaching bugs first.
I seem to have the same problem today, I couldnât change the workout properly to indoor so Iâve loaded the workout independently and tried to match it afterwards to the planned workout:
Edit
Sorry mum, I think Iâve made it worse
Now itâs trying to adapt the completed workoutâŚ
Is it expected behavior that clicking the Add activity doesnât offer TrainNow as an option?
Selecting TrainerRoad Inside does not offer TrainNow either. I think thatâs would be nice for anyone wanting to have TrainNow suggest their Yellow day endurance ride. I know TrainNow has remained on the left navigation pane but do think it would be nice to not leave the calandar.
Good feedback! TrainNowâs strength is in helping you pick a workout to do⌠Now (no pun intended). Itâs less useful for scheduling workouts in the future, since itâs so dependent on your fitness and fatigue level at this exact moment. Thatâs why we havenât initially added it to the drawer, which can be used to schedule workouts at any time. But I think youâre absolutely rightâTrainNow is the best way to pick a workout when youâre picking one for today, and Iâd like for us to incorporate it into the experience of adding a workout more seamlessly from the new calendar.
Not sure if this is a known issue, but I tried to right click and use âCopy Workoutâ on what was a Solo Ride. When I pasted it to the new date, it actually created a productive Sweet Spot indoor workout.
I think itâs probably because thatâs what would have been in my plan if I hadnât changed it to the Solo Ride, but if Iâm doing a Copy, it should just copy what Iâve clicked on.
Interesting! We havenât caught this one yet, thanks for pointing it out! Weâll take a look at it next week.
I am enjoying the new calendar format and getting used to working with it. One thing thatâs come up for me is that for the coming week there seems to be a disconnect between the TSS planned that is showing in the calendar vs whatâs showing up, it ultimate corrects itself by the end of the week but seems to be a bug.
Do you have planned swims? We have a known issue where swims arenât showing up on the planned TSS totals, and the fix should be in next week. If it doesnât involve swims Iâll be interested to dig a little deeper.
Hi Sean, no planned swims, all activity is either through an indoor TR workout or through a ride. Rides are in the weekly plan and either a sole or group ride depending on the ride.
Hope that helps.