Musk we pay extra for this blue check?
This is a good point.
Still looking to understand how this differs from Form, beyond the fact that it is integrated in TR and it can give you a warning when you are about to start an activity.
4 colors makes it confusing in my book. I’d stick with 3, but use all 3.
RLGL doesn’t differ at all! Sorta, Nate states there is some AI/ML behind it all. It’s just TR’s version of ATL/CTL/TSB. But they better give the appropriate credit or some “people” may lose their sh$t on the forum! ![]()
It is different. There are plainly some underpinnings of stress/strain from the tss model, but it also includes other data. Link to the timestamp where Nate talks about it.
I’d be really interested in what RLGL says about the following dates - these are all CTL peaks where I “crashed and burned” after. The 12/30 dates are all tied to Festive500, so it would be interesting to see when I’m Yellow, and when I go Red during Festive500
06/12/2016
06/29/2017
12/30/2017
12/30/2018
12/30/2019
07/12/2020
12/30/2020
I mean there is always a “propriety blend”, “secret sauce” to everyone’s product. It does seem a bit more refined though, so looking forward to it to compare to Form.
It’s one of the things I find interesting about ML/AI models in general. If a model can derive something from the data that others have created from an equation. Internally the representation might be quite different.
Sort of like you can’t copyright a recipe. But you can copyright the ‘text’ that goes with the recipe.
Because any rational actor could combine ingredients in any number of ways to get a result that satisfies the constraint (it tastes good).
At least that’s my complete neophyte thinking around these things #notALawyerOrADoctor.
Of course predicating your model on pre-existing art/science might well influence the outcome.
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Call it ‘Let’r Rip Tater Chip’
On reflection, I think most of more burned out phases or lack of progression are probably as a consequence of the additional non-training load (kids, work, travel). My garmin body battery metric seems to be a good gauge of when I should press on or take it easy.
Any scope for TR to take on data from my wearable? Even if it’s the user just manually entering a number, like with the gauging rpe post workout?
Excited for red light green light!!! You can’t call it anything else now surely!!
Thanks!
Would also love to be involved in the testing. Been on TrainerRoad a couple years. When I first joined I did a LV training plan and i seemed to go backwards.
I then sacked plans off and just picked workouts that I liked the look of. Also set targets of completing certain workout and working towards that. I then started using train now. One reason I didn’t use training plans is that I always go on a hard long group ride on saturday and wasn’t sure how I’d incorporate that in to a plan. I tried a polar plan towards the end of last year but a back injury put paid to that.
But I’d love to be involved and someone take a look at my history and see if or more to the fact where I could improve.
Call it the Loggins Index. ![]()

Simply? Form Balance.
It’s interesting you say this, but my Garmin readiness has often told me I’m good to go when I’m not. I can tell from looking at HR and HRV, whether I’m really stuffed. It’s not reliable to tell me to take it easy.
I always get recommended anaerobic. I don’t do any regularly lol.
I am currently on a general base mid volume plan and I belive I am right on the edge of burnout and am curious if RLGL would be flagging me right now.
I recently had a prescribed 4h z2 ride that turned into an outdoor 6h ride with a lot of not z2… the classic move. Since then intervals.icu has shown me as dipping into high risk.
Today’s scheduled sweet spot workout will be pushing me back into high risk for sure.
I’m not overly concerned as I’m about to hit a rest week, but i am curious to see if RLGL aligns with intervals.icu and my own self perception of fatigue.
This. No need to throw in another term and shy away some users with too much language (like the distinction between progression levels and workout levels in some threads here).
@Nate_Pearson Feel free to look at my calendar April 2022. Threshold trainings might have been on the edge. Also would love to see the days AFTER February 17th 2021 and March 6th 2021 when my sweetspot progression ended (105 minutes and 120 minutes at 90%). Would like to take part in the beta program.
My first thought was “Training Tachometer”, but I’m not sure if a tach is something people are still generally aware of.
Have submitted mine!
Tachs generally being round in shape with needless and a graduated marked scale (with a “Redline” zone to avoid) are a bit dated and different than the pure color shown in the examples. Some cars still have them despite having automatic transmissions. More have them when they include a manual mode for the driver.
But building on that idea and touching on the “Redline” aspect that does seem relatable I could see “Training Redline” or other derivations playing here. Pushing more toward race cars, the modern ones usually have rev / shift lights as signals that are often easier to use in race situations than a tach. Many align with the color progression already discussed so I dig it as an option.




